I don’t know if anyone else feels the same as I do, but I have been getting big sad getting 19 stacks on pyre then it procs. I get the rng aspect of it, but wouldn’t it be so much better if when it procs it doesn’t clear your previous stacks? 20 casts is a pretty tall order. Maybe I’m using pyre wrong? I don’t use it unless I have 20 stacks or it procs? And thoughts or suggestions? I think it should only clear the stacks if you cast it without the proc.
There was a post that math’d it out. Basically the more mobs the less stacks you need to make it worthwhile. If I remember the chart it was saying 20 stacks only on 2 mobs
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Oh wow really I’m going to have to try using it differently when I get home. Thank you!
Pyre + charged blast talent to make it worth casting with EoI nerf
- 2 targets needs 20 stacks
- 3 targets needs 9+ stacks
- 4 targets needs 2+ Stacks
- 5 or more Targets no stacks needed
That’s a dirty copy paste of the post
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Thank you Very much I really appreciate it!
Don’t thank me thank the guy who figured it out lol. But you’re welcome regardless 
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Honestly, it seems like a horrible ability to me, being supposedly the iconic ability of the spec.
what do you mean it procs?
Probably means that the buff window ends and you lose your stacks.
I personally don’t particularly care about that Talent. The dmg increase isn’t by much in the long term.
Could be better if the more stacks you have the more likely it will spread if you took volatile.
30% on Volatile is too low. Should be 50% IMO.
The way he words it sounds like he’s getting proc pyre which is consuming the buff. Maybe he doesn’t know dragon rage throws 3 pyres out? Literally nothing else casts pyre other than pyre.
You have the stacks, you have a chance to have it proc and cast it for free at 20 stacks.
Charged blast does not randomly cast a free pyre at 20 stacks lol. You can hold 20 stacks indefinitely as long as you use a blue spell every 30 seconds
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You get the charged blast stacks for each blue spell that hits. So Azure Strike will add 2 (3 with talent in class tree), each target struck by eternity surge and each tick of disintegrate.
In dungeons I’ll use AS one or twice while tank is clustering mobs then use pyre. Once the pack is down to 2 or three I switch to using disintegrate and letting scintillation procs cleave. (I have eternity’s span)
No you have the stacks from casting blue spells. I forget the talent but you have a chance to get a free pyre. Like the spell lights up and you can cast it for free. But after you do so the previous stacks are gone. Say I AS 15 times and I have 15 stacks on the pyre then the spell lights up and I cast it the stacks go back to 0. It’s the same proc for Disintegrate
Essence burst using azure strike gives you the freebie.
And charge blast adds counts for each target hit. So single target yes you get one per cast. but it naturally hits two, and can be talented for 3. So in 3+ target cleave your getting 3 charges per Azure strike
I really don’t understand what you’re complaining about then. If casting pyre at <20 stacks makes you feel “big sad,” then hold essence burst or use it on disintegrate instead to build charged blast to 20. Whatever makes you feel better. You don’t have to press pyre simply because it lit up. Essence burst pyres not clearing charged blast stacks would be utterly broken during dragonrage aoe.
I don’t think you understand a lot of things. Aoe is the only time im using pyre. Im not talking about when im in dragon rage for starters. And no it wouldn’t be op in dragon rage because you get a lot of procs regardless in dragon rage so it doesn’t matter. Im talking about when im DR is on cd and you have a big pack, you spam azure 15 times for nothing because the proc clears the stack ….that’s my point… and if you took a second to read above someone answered me and told me I don’t have to wait till 20 on big pulls. I’m done wasting my time with you.
the proc you’re referring to is essence burst, which gives a free cast of an essence ability. you don’t need to spend that on pyre. you can spend it on disintegrate, which will build more charged blast procs. a few people have said it, but it seems you’re not understanding exactly what that proc means and just seeing pyre light up.
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If I recall, the only thing that “procs” Pyre is Dragonrage. Aside from that, you don’t have to spend Essence Burst on Pyre. What on earth are you complaining about?
Guys…… I f”in know you don’t have to use the essence burst on pyre. But if there is 15 mobs im not going to use it on Disintegrate. The more stacks of pyre you have the more damage it does. So when IT PROCS As in essence burst and you get to use pyre or disintegrate for free! It’s clears the damn stack……that means If I had 15 stacks on my pyre, and essence burst procs and I’m still in a aoe fight I use said pyre and all those 15 stacks are gone. So if you are trying to use pyre only at 20 stacks for more damage output, which a guy clearly stated right away that I don’t have to do anymore if you guys would if read the comments. And how the f*&$^ am I complain when I asked in the post if I was using it wrong? And asked for thoughts and suggestions…… there are 2 types of people that come to the forums. Some of us seeking knowledge, and idiots that are just looking to argue over nothing…. Literally the first guy to comment answered the question and cleared everything up for me.
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