To start, I am not a raider or dungeon guy. At end game I like to PVP and thats mostly it. But given that PVP gearing is beyond broken, and I mostly refuse to do dungeons. What are my options to PVP successfully?
Its really dumb going up against people with +360k health and some ridiculous weapons when i have less than 250k health. I thought about upgrading benthic gear to start, but that would only get me up to 280k to 290k health.
BTW, I tried for a few hours to get into a Mythic 0 through group finder and couldnt get an invite. I guess i dont meet the screening criteria. Maybe time for a new game?
Join a guild that does mythics, id wager if youāre a cool person they will have no problem helping you do M0ās and lower keys if you needed.
Conquest cap, as was previously mentioned, provides heroic raid level gear. This is really the only way to get decent PVP gear if youāre dead set on not doing other content.
I agree that not having a way to target certain gear in a PVP setting is frustrating, and that having to do content you dislike just to get gear is annoying, but you do still have some options.
The 430 gear from capping conquest is only once a week. If conquest has been capped get a 415 piece from the weekly chest.
If raiding and dungeons donāt do it for you that does not leave much besides spending time on nazjatar. Which is a zone I will happily not set foot in again but the 75 conquest from the supply chest is a bit too tempting. Once your ilvl is high enough emissaries give 415.
This is fine until you hit the point where emissaries are not an upgrade any more and the weekly chest is something you either vendor or scrap. Any gearing slows to 1 piece a week if you cap conquest every week which leads to a feeling of you have to cap conquest or if you donāt puts that 1 piece back another week.
Against overwhelming odds and heroic warfronts is a way to help slide in some extra high item level pieces. Iām not sure what item level AOO gives now.
Doing 2s to 1600 will get you some gear each week as well in your weekly box.
Joining a large pve guild goes a long way as well for mythic dungeons. A lot of groups I ran with were guild runs.
My dude, hereās what you do: respec to Prot and enjoy ez mode. No guild or friends needed
Prot Warriors just have it so good man, the gear comes fast (as long as you actually put in the time/do the dungeons).
Once you get a decent amount of tanking gear, you can simply switch your loot specialization to āArmsā or āFuryā to farm yourself a DPS/PvP set of gear (which seems to be your main gripe).
Youāre welcome
Source: I have a Prot Warrior alt and I have 0 issues getting invites to PUGs, itās sitting comfy at like 441 iLvL right now. I started running +10ās at around 424 iLvL (earlier on in the season).
like⦠im not joking or trying to be funny or looking for attention or being edgy⦠im being brutally honest.
BFA is horrible for pvp players.
Me personally i had to bite the bullet and spam mythics to get my gear, yeah it wasnt as fun as doing pvp but i guess at the end of the day it was worth it. Now i have 3 toons who have over 300k base hp, and its very fun.
it sucks, i know⦠but its basically the best way to gear up unless u can reach 2.4k in arenas
To do BGās and casual PvP content , gear from Conquest Cap is more then sufficient as long as you are capping every week . If you at behind , itās still very very easy to catch up . I am capped in 2 days typically and I think thatās the norm for most players .
Had missed that. Just checked my other 120. I am the only one getting 430 gear from capping conquest. Have not done much pvp with the others or even played them much lately. They are all sitting at 410 weapon if they cap conquest and their ilvl ranges from 378 to 394.
People saying ājust cap conquest every weekā are leaving out the part where he would have to farm 500 conquest points over and over and over, like 8-10 times, before the 430 conquest reward items even become available
So in reality, the OP would literally need to farm upwards of 4000-5000 conquest points before he sees even one 430 item. Assuming heās literally starting from zero/starting from scratch at the initial 410 conquest weapon reward.
Relying on conquest cap rewards is just awfully inefficient in terms of time invested-vs-reward, and especially taking into account the fact that wins in bgs are not guaranteed (you only get the conquest points if you win).
I stand by my earlier suggestion; just reroll Prot and spam M+ dungeons, youāll be geared up in no time dude
Yep. You know how certain people on this forum are (a very select few).
I did a m+10 on my main with a guildie, got two items traded to me that were upgrades, a nice 445 in the chest the following week - all for around 25-30 mins of work.
^^^^ yep, M+ is just sooooo much faster/more efficient overall (for the purpose of farming gear anyways). Like, itās not EVEN a question
Conquest rewards are a joke by comparison⦠415 rewards for 8-10 consecutive weeks before 430 gear unlocks? Yikes
On the other hand with M+, you just need 4 other people to put together a PUG and boom!.. you can ājump right into itā and start getting 430+ gear RIGHT AWAY, thereās no other waiting or grinding.
Idk, I heard from someone it was hard to pug those. Meanwhile, you donāt even have to do pvp to cap CP. Also, rated pvp is rewarding. You donāt have to just do randoms.
this irritates me to no end, so far this expac the weekly conquest cap has been behind the curve relative to even casual raiding. buy the time im getting heroic level pvp gear i have already had that slot at that ilvl for a bit.
im pretty sure the only reason conquest items donāt start at heroic ilvl is because there would be endless qq from pvers who would feel obligated to pvp for fast ilvl.
Then you heard wrong friend, because thereās tons of people PUG-ging +10ās on a regular basis
Iām not sure where this notion that PUG-ging +10ās is āimpossibleā comes from⦠something unique to the forums? +10ās are really not that hard, even 420ās players can do them just fine
I guess itās also possible that people who get their +10 weekly chest are probably happy and therefore donāt spend time complaining on internet forums. That might create a trend where itās mostly people who are unhappy or feel āleft outā that complain on the forums, creating the (false) perception that itās āimpossibleā to PUG mythics.
thats not my point. when a new season starts, generally we have a new raid, my guild will start on normal, by the time im getting conquest capped gears and the weekly chest, im generally already getting gear from the raid. the last two seasons i have got a better 2h the first week before capping for the weapon.
then when we finally get up to heroic ilvl from conquest, my guild has moved to heroic difficulty and again, i am getting ilvl from the raid often 1-2 weeks before i get that slot from conquest. so if im not getting a piece that has better stats for pvp, doesnāt wf/tf, then it goes to the scrapper and was a waste of time.
if it was just a matter if chasing ilvl, i would be doing M+, as that is the fastest and best gearing path. the problem is that the weekly conquest gear does not keep up with casual raiding, in general its 1-2 weeks behind. if it is not going to offer items with bis stats so you can eliminate some RNG from your gearing strat, then its nothing more than an annoying system.
i could, but i generally prefer epics at this point. perhaps rated epics are in the future? but either way, my complaint wasnāt about ilvl, just that the pvp gearing system is irritating and behind all other sources. given that there are plenty of bg only players, this segment of the population is getting left behind all the rest.