A short list of changes that I think will make for a healthier TBC Classic experience.
Make Seal of Blood and Seal of Vengeance baseline for both faction’s paladins. One faction’s class being flat out better than the other’s is wonky.
Dual-spec available for purchase at 1,000g one-time fee. Same mechanic as WOTLK just an expansion earlier. Provides the convenience of being able to swap a different spec when you need to while still costing a decent amount of gold for the economics of it.
At least one month of TBC pre-patch where Draenei/Blood Elf are available to be leveled to 60 but with no access to Outland. This lets both factions even out the shaman/paladin ratios for raiding.
Well well well, a list that isn’t full of BS and actually has good things. I like them all but I’m betting that the pvp one is the only one that would actually happen.
I was asking for a dual spec system back during vanilla for the sake of doing raiding and pvp on the same toon without the humongous gold sink.
It is sad that alliance Prot pallies get the absolute shaft in TBC, I don’t think the community as a whole would want to see that fixed, but it is one of the most glaring broken things that didn’t get resolved during TBC sadly.
Dual Spec won’t happen but a pre-patch would be amazing, I don’t see why Blizz wouldn’t pre-patch, I mean we got a decent pre-patch back in the day, so I really don’t see a world where they wouldn’t honor that and do it the same way. Classic will have gotten beyond boring by then so yeah having 1000s of people in the B-Elf lands running around would be so fun
It’s funny how people keep harping on how “unfair” TBC is to Alliance Ret Paladins while they enjoy and benefit from the massive advantage alliance priests have throughout classic with fear ward and desperate prayer.
this is such a bizarre take, ret paladins should be 10% weaker as opposed to other ret paladins because a class that isn’t ret paladin has different racial abilities? what
It’d be like nerfing orc warriors because they have windfury
so we are on board with nerfing horde warlocks because they benefit from their priests having wotf? how about their shadowbolts do 10% less damage than gnome warlocks?
Because dual spec improves quality of life for raid tanks and healers without totally breaking the idea of making meaningful choices for your toon. Running dailies on a raid tank or healer was obnoxious in TBC. You couldn’t DPS worth a damn, and if you chose to respec and quest quickly you blew all your gold from the dailies.
Not really, no it doesn’t. If you’re serious about your role, you’re going to have 2 specs for that role. And still have to pay to respec every time you want to do something else.
Anyway, when you already have a system that is much better, i.e. Retail, why ask for something that doesn’t actually solve the problem it was intended to?
Also, while we’re making changes, Pandaren should be a playable race in TBC Classic.
Yes because the faction where Warlocks actually originate from to the point where one could almost argue for warlocks to be a Horde exclusive class should be weaker than Alliance warlocks right… yes because that totally makes sense…
The usefulness that Alliance priests gain over Horde priests with their fearward and desperate prayer is much greater than 10% if we were to assign an actual numerical value to it.
So yes Horde Paladins gaining 8%-10% more damage on paper as Ret spec is more than reasonable for TBC considering people like you seem perfectly fine with enjoying your exclusive priest privilege in Vanilla/Classic.
I’m really glad you can’t enact any balance changes within this game because nerfing classes because of what people on their faction can do is pretty hilarious, sorry orc warriors but you guys had windfury and wotf for all of classic so now human warriors get to outdps you by 22%
There is no comparison to the lore based Paladin seal difference in TBC other than the lore based Priest difference in abilities based on race/faction in classic.
Talking about how one class augments another(Shamans) is going on a completely different tangent, and if we were actually going to continue down this ridiculous line of reasoning then a number of Alliance version classes should be significantly nerfed in TBC for enjoying all of those Paladin blessings throughout classic on the easy mode PVE faction that were never available to Horde.
Anyway, I came across this post from 2007, comparing SoB and SoC for Ret Paladins. It’s a shame that the forum post it links to for the math is not longer at its specified URL.
It will be interesting to see how well this holds up with a new release of Blizzard’s TBC.
