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@Döt-grobbulus

the Paladin player puts into their class has value

@Veshzi-deviate-delight

Ret pally (sadly) brings literally nothing to the table that is unique and separate from holy paladin, except it takes a slot (and the corresponding gear) that could be used by a warrior.

@Döt-grobbulus

Not a big fan of prioritizing loot that way. The people matter more to me than optimizing 15 year old content that we can beat half afk.

Sure. That’s your preference. I am not saying I disagree, but I am not going to go along with the big farce that Ret Paladins are anything but worse performing in all ways than a better spec (or class for that role).