I am having trouble breaking 450 DPS is dungeons and in raids. I did Kara with a PuG and was only able to manage 500 dps tops. I am currently running a Combat spec I had found on Wowhead stating it is the most viable combat spec. I open with garrote and spam sinister strike to build combo points and then use points to keep Slice n Dice up at all times then spend extra on Rupture. I feel lost trying to get good DPS out of combat… I am used to CB/Hemo spec (PvP) and I just can’t figure out what i am doing wrong that I can’t get any better DPS. I feel like 400 dps average is extremely low. What am I possibly getting wrong. I am basically a fresh 70 with a kara weapon and the rest of my gear is level 60-69 blues and greens. Is this normal?
It depends a lot on your group and gear. If the only 70 gear you have is a weapon, your DPS is gonna be very low and if you aren’t in a group to favor you (having a warrior for battleshout, shaman for totems and windfury, feral for 5% Crit, etc.) your DPS will suffer a lot.
450 does sound on the lower end. Make sure you are attacking from behind so you don’t get parried. Look for guides on pre-raid gear you can get, a good item for example is the clefthoof kilt from the ogre quest chain in blade’s edge.
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I am just so tired of being behind the tank in DPS…
You won’t like cataclysm classic then. 
He will shine in wotlk tho!
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rogues are suppose to be terrible for PVE.
which, why is why is wow broken like this? good question because it seems like your dps should be all hunters and warlocks…
however, from a tank perspective I’m managed to hit 727 spellpower and I can outdps almost everyone with multiple mobs when the cons drops… in Kara, in heroics, and so forth.
I think since we know rogues are pretty much obsolete so to become as viable as possible, going to require more gear…
that’s just the broken state of wow.
My first thought is hit rating. If yours is low, gem for hit. At least hit the soft-cap.
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Sounds like your gear is a little lacking. Practice your bursting combos by dueling a friends back to back and see how fast you can take them down. Just practice burst burst burst. Stack crit. And yea…get better gear. Get a good trink as well. One that helps with crit.
Yea he has crappy DPS. I have been in his shoes multiple times when I used to play my warlock. Still to this day I am always bottom on that toon for DPS. Doesnt matter what my gear is. Now I top DPS charts with my pally and hunter…but never ever ever my warlock. Thats because I am not a warlock person. Maybe he is not a rogue person. Or maybe it is his setup. His rotation is not exactly how I would do it, but good still. idk. And yea the hit stuff can be part of it. Or if he got a new weapon type and needs to level up the skill in that. Or possibly he has bad lag which can also cause this. You can actually lag without knowing that you lag. You just need to ask a friend to watch you run around to see if you ever run in place for a few steps or run forward in jerky movements sometimes. I usually only ever run Sub on my rogues though. I have a lot of them. I do Sub because I like the playstyle. Just as how my warrior has always been fury and has never stepped foot outside of that spec for over a decade. I play Sub rogue, fury warrior, ret pally, weather or not it is viable. On rare occasaions I will switch to assass on rogue. But as for this fellow. He should try rolling another spec, try to stack crit, see if he is hit capped and also if he has his weapon skill fully leveled for the weapon that he has, see that he has a good connection. And I think he should try full Assasas spec. As well as getting better gear. Now if he does ALL of that and his dps is still bad… then it is time to re roll by playing a totally different class.
Caster clysm.
Same. So much of rogue damage is just in the auto attacking. Even stacking hit past soft cap is good.
This here…are you saying you go without SnD for a while at first? It should be up asap and always.
Sword spec?
Slow mainhand? Fast offhand?
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A thought has occurred to me. I was in a group that intended on farming Shattered Halls for rep and gear back when people did that a lot. This was my first time in that place since the original TBC. My DPS on the first run was like 450 or something. It went up to over 600 on my second run. The issue wasn’t my rotation or gear… it was being comfortable with the pulls. On the second run, I was able to time my cooldowns and my trinkets a lot better.
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You’re right that 400 DPS is very low, that would be low for level 60. The most common issues I’ve found with severely lacking DPS comes from fundamentals.
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Are you way behind in the back of the group when pulling? Be as close as you can be for the pull without causing issues. Missing 10+ seconds of the fight because you’re badly positioned will kill your DPS.
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If you are keyboard turning, or clicking abilities, that needs to stop right away. Abilities need to be used without delay and you can’t be slow on movement.
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Make sure EVERYTHING is keybound/mousebound. Use modifier macros to fit things in.
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Knowing your uptime on Slice & Dice, and only using Rupture when the enemy will survive the whole DOT will be important. I don’t know Rogues at all so I’m not sure how to weigh Rupture/Evis/Envenom to begin with.
do you have a log from warcraft logs? That would help a lot
Highly recommend this video and the link in the description for a rogue sim. Put in your gear and see what dps you should be hitting and then go back and investigate
Put SnD up immediately, don’t build 5 combo points.
Like Shamora said, you really, really want to be in a group with an enhance shaman, preferably a warrior as well.
Rogues in bad gear are bad though. You have to try hard to get a lot out of the class before T6.
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Rogue needs a lot of hit gear to perform. If you are doing heroics a lot of the mobs are level 72, increasing your chance to miss against them. Get about 250 hit to be comfortable.
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- You rolled a rogue instead of a fury warrior.
- You said your gear is bad.
I think we should be trying to retain new players/new to WoW, not push them away, y’know?
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without seeing logs I would say low hit rating, I dont play rogue for a long time so I dont remenber the hit cap. You should join the rogue classic discord they probably have highly detailed tutorials for the class
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Post your logs in the rogue discord. Gear does make a difference but its very unlikely you are playing the class to its maximum.