My dps is below average, when I sim my dps is much higher

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Just about every class I play, i struggle with my dps. I am always below average or not doing well as everyone else. When I sim myself my dps is always higher. My current problem toon is my frost dk. Raidbots sim thingy says my dps should be about 28k My dps is about that for maybe 5 seconds at the start of rotation, when I pop my cds. But during a 5 minute fight I am doing about 23k dps. In a practical situation when mechanics are involved my dps drops down to 15-16k. My current line of thinking is that part of the problem is the weapons they are 370/410. Now on frost dk hits Oblieration hits for around 10k howling blast hits for around 3k and frost strike hits for around 8k, then 4-5k. Frostwhelps i, hits around 50k.

On my hunter I have similar problems. But I quit my hunter because there are way too many buttons to press in pvp situations. I’m terrible with traps, and I always disengage onto an incline.

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Cool

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Roll a demon hunter.

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Why are you here? If you aren’t going to help hit the road. Also reported for spam.

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How is that spam? It’s one comment lol. Also, what are we supposed to help with, you didn’t ask a question, just one long statement.

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Technically you fall into that category as well considering this post provides nothing of substance and it just a single statement. Not only that, you attacked someone for responding to your statement by claiming they weren’t here to help yet no where in your OP are you asking for help.

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Are you also making sure you have all the options unticked that gives extra stuff, such as potions and runes, buff’s and stuff?

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I was asking for help on my dps. That was the intended nature of the post. You responded with one word response in the vain of “whatever.” To which I asked you why you are here. You are clearly a troll. And I am done talking to you.

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No, I responded to your statement of your various DPS numbers because that was the only thing in the post.

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Oh. hm. I wonder if that is it. Thanks! I’m going to go check on that!

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Because you’ll find that there is a huge difference between having everything enabled and everything disabled.

https://i.imgur.com/CYJPeVs.png

Take my Demon Hunter for example.

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One thing to note is that sims will rarely if ever match your real dps. Take them more as what your total potential is, but never expect to actually hit it. If you truly want to improve on your dk, youll need to post on your dk as well, no one can really help you without looking at your gear, talents, ect. Its also incredibly helpful to start logging your kills on any kind of logging site. This gives a real example of what youre doing and lets you see where you can improve.

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This.,3 buttons only . You can even play it by hitting forehead on keyboard .

And ya you are not going to match Sims under any environment with mechanics involved . You can get close on a target dummy if you are doing your rotation right .

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Check how long the encounter that you’re simming is, if you sim for patchwerk 3 minutes and sit at the dummy for 5, you’re obviously going to do a bit less. Other than that, you would probably want to log yourself on a raid boss or something, then perhaps upload the log to something like WowAnalyzer to see if there are massive errors in your rotation that you need to correct.

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Dont stress too much because the new patch means new gear in 2 weeks.

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Simcraft is only there to let you know what your potential could be under optimal conditions it doesn’t take in affect what you are capable of. There are so many variables when it comes to human error. So yes sim may say you are capable of 28k but doesn’t mean you will push 28k.

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One thing to consider, is many sim’s will calculate damage under ideal circumstances. With every consumable and group buff. Your damage in reality will likely be way lower outside of this scenario.

The sim will also assume ideal rotation, more than likely won’t factor in mechanics.

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Go download Hekili, import your SimC data and follow the spell buttons exactly as they tell you to.

Than when you get used to the rotation your can start to adjust what Hekili tells you and what buttons you press. For example with an Unholy DK, Hekili will tell you to hit Death Coil when you have enough power. But you may be low on health and since Death Strike cost the same you could use that as a situational option instead of opting for max DPS.

For a BM Hunter Hekili may tell you to press Cobra Shot, but your Barbed Shot may only have a low time left before it expires and you might find it better to wait a second, hit Barbed Shot and than Cobra Shot so you don’t run out of the buff.

See Hekili is great against say a training dummy or a boss that just stands there, it has options to use defenses as needed, but it does not take anything into account as to what is happening, including lag, it solely runs whatever you input into it, therefore if you are inputting your SimC data and don’t turn on the defensive options it will 100% be tuned for DPS.

But if you stand there in front of a dummy or run some LFG it will teach you a better rotation to try and maximise your DPS if all works well and once you are more used to it, than you can adjust Hekili or just get used to what buttons show up and know what it means, rather than what to press.

That is, when Death Coil comes up it means I have 45 Runic Power, it wants me to press that to maximise my DPS, but I can choose now what to do with that 45 Runic Power if I need something else done.

Mind you, this addon does not work for some classes unless you have it set to single target, like Warlocks and Shadow Priests since they need to multi dot and the addon not only wants you to dot everything, but it wants you to dot it twice to maximise your time the spell is up on the enemy, which is not always needed for AOE.

I find most of the time I am around 10% less than the sim depending on the class, my hunter can hit closer to 5% lower, my priest could be as low as 20% less DPS than the sims.

The hardest part of being DPS is finding the right class that suits you.

You need the right gear, the optimal rotation, learn how to change the rotation based on what is happening, maybe choose to use something else. Like a boss may have 2% health left and there are adds, it’s stupid to use AOE as you want to maximise the boss damage.

It’s actually not easy being a DPS at the highest levels, especially when you start to sim your DPS. I’ve seen a guy who just couldn’t get it right at all, he had a good number of our top players in guild guiding him, he tried all number of addons, no addons, different talents, gear, you name it, he was hitting some 20K less than the other same class players with a similar iLVL.

You really need to be tuned to your class to be able to hit at mythic raid levels.

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This is normal. SIMs are not accurate because a sim is assuming that you have perfect conditions during the entire fight which simply does not happen in a real scenario. They’re good benchmarks for what gear/stats are theoretically better for your spec but that’s it.