Hello everyone, it seems like Arms Warrior is struggling quite a bit at the moment so I’d like to share to you the build I made. Keep in mind that when I dish out this talent tree, I’ve tried everything from bleed build to execute build you name it.
It seems to be working but definitely not as good as Fury or other classes such as DH and Warlock but we work with what we got am I right?
i’m assuming this is a m+/multitarget build?
We are realy undertuned, I do most pvp, and I can say Dh, lock and feral are broken, dont compare them to us, they will be nerfed, I am in beta, and its very diferent there, once you get the modifiers to execute and Ms, you should try now Ventyr plus the right side of arms tree, its the more damage rn.
PvP but you generate so much rage that you use whirlwind as filter.
I’d drop seismic and sidearm, at minimum to grab intim shout from the general tree, ideally seismic
there aren’t going to be many situations where you’re going to get much value out of it
not taking rend is also a bit odd, but ig it really doesn’t matter since you’re also not running a tide build
but the oddest thing i just noticed
You didn’t take Tactician? …Why?
You cannot drop side arms because side arms help generate rage along with furious blows and you need a lot of RAGE to make this build work.
Whirlwind does increased damage and also slams your target at the same time.
I don’t have Seismic or Tactician. You don’t need overpowered because whirlwind simply do more damage.
Rend can work but only if you have the other build, built into it but at the moment our points are limited being level 60 and all.
Barbaric Training, Fervor of War, and rank 2 crushing force, collateral damage all works in conjunction in making whirlwind stronger makes whirlwind significantly better than overpowered.
???
how
sidearm procs don’t generate rage, and furious blows doesn’t make a large enough to be worth mentioning, it’s simply a gateway talent
overpower is the vehicle to buffing mortal strike’s damage
without tactician, you can literally never get the full 40% amp on mortal strike
i mean this honestly when i ask, and without shade, but have you never played arms before?
It buffs mortal strike damage and you use overpower when you can but always prioritized whirlwind over overpowered regardless since you build so much rage the damage you lost through mortal strike is gained through the damage you earn from whirlwind. You are simply having too much rage, more than you can use if you prioritized overpower over whirlwind. Rage that isn’t spend because we no longer have ignore pain.
yeah, if you were playing pve, that’d be the case
but burst damage is king in pvp, and that extra rage you’re spending on ww is essentially fluff, and a fully amped ms chunks harder than ferver ww, plus applies a healing debuff
but if you want to run this, by all means, go for it
but my opinion if it is that it’s pretty bad
It’s for PVP bro like I don’t know what to tell you. Like I get it, it doesn’t look good for you but try to try it out or something.
and in PVP, you hit Mortal Strike over overpower not overpower first then mortal strike regardless of the stack this is because Mortal Strike is literally a 4 sec CD and in PVP you generate so much rage that its better to use it on whirlwind and if you hit 3 targets, your whirlwind does a free whirlwind with a 70% increased damage which is also build into slam which is build into crushing force which increases its damage by 60% and crit by 15%
in my opinion, you should try it out before you say its bad.
im messing around with it right now, actually
its why im saying it’s bad
i might just be playing it with the wrong mindset but ill get back to you tomorrow on actual performance
i dont disagree with you about overpower being useless so you don’t take tactician and i agree with you there. Is there anyway to get a point into MBG and spam WW in csmash windows? Maybe swap tormented signet to blademaster torment for 2 MBG windows.
It’s not useless its just not as good as Whirlwind especially if its build into 5 or 6 different talents that enhances the crap out of the damage.
If you are prioritizing overpower, you will literally be wasting your rage. Rage that you are not spending. We were able to spend this rage on ignore pain, but we don’t have that anymore.
I’m doing a BG right now if you wanna hop on your Alliance warrior we’ll inv you.
Just give me a message
thats nice, we have differing opinions on it and thats fair. im more interested in seeing if you could get merciless bonegrinder and swapping avatar reck for avatar bladestorm since it will proc hurricane and merciless bonegrinder for 50% more whirlwind damage. I also think you should swap sidearm and sesimic for the increased rage cap if you are worried about rage gen or does sidearm count as an auto and generate rage?
me and yoss have come to the conclusion that i’m just a whining baby and i don’t like whirlwind focused builds
sorry for trying to trash ur build g
im told it should be fine
ill take your word for it, and others
but its not my cup of tea
im gonna go cry about slam never being relevant again
still testing but it doesn’t seem like it does so I’ll have to switch it out
sesimic reverberation
– if whirlwind hits 3 ore more enemies, it hits them 1 additional time for 70% damage
that’s like doing whirlwind again free of rage, for 70% damage plus slam that’s build into crushing force because fervor of war.
yeah thats not bad. dunno you should try it with torment and MBG. Those two talents arent conditional on your ww hitting multiple people (which is easy cause everyone summons pets) and it just gives u a second hurricane window/ MBG is just a flat 50% modifier to ww
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me and yoss were talking about it
might as well drop imp ms and go into mbg/swap to bmt
no point in half baking it
+can u imagine mbg seismic?