Mutilate change has rogues on top of PVP

This is just level 25, imagine how bad this is going to be @40. 40 energy is to low? Opinions?

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counter argument, 60 energy is too high.

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having high energy cost on rogue abilities feels terrible, like your not actually using abilities, without energy regeneration type talents or runes it feels Dry. 40 energy would be better assuming the ability is balanced otherwise.

Yea but you lose your gap closer (currently) with Mutilate.

I’d say its to early to tell, Mutilate def will be stronger in PvP but the real PvP spec hasn’t even been out yet.

I can’t wait for the people to start crying about not being able to play their character for 60 seconds~.

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40 energy + 2 combo points is way too much imo. They should leave it at 40 energy but drop it down to 1 combo point. I think that would be a fair change and keep the ability strong.

Mutilate is now super fun to run, and unlike backstab or Saber Slash, requires super good gear and the talent tree mandatory points to function well.

I personally love Mutilate at 40 energy, since it doesn’t scale nearly as well as the SS bleed dot or the raw damage of Backstab/Ambush.

You can run quick draw since we don’t need slaughter. Not the same, but it helps.

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Quick draw is mandatory in pvp right now. At 40 it will be replaced by deadly brew and poison throw (as that now acts as the ranged snare with crippling poison).

It’s fun but no Rogues are not on top.

They’ll be S tier when they get Shadow Step as well as wound poison though.

Deadly brew?

Did you mean something else? A dot negates much of our toolkit.

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Random DoT breaking Gouge, Sap, or eventually Blind? Sounds like a good investment.

:smiling_face:

it should only give 1 combo point. the original cost was balanced by 2 points.

Still cant kill a warlock

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I could see them adding something like 1 combo point but 2 combo points on a crit.

Struggles to kill many classes and brings limited utility currently. Also has poor mobility. Rogue is definitely not on top if we care about 10v10 atm. Priest, Hunter, and Resto Boomie still feels like the dominant Meta to me.

Rogue looking hot next tier though.