Musings about The Last Titan

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I’m assuming its Sargeras, though it could possibly be the World Soul itself, after killing him off. I originally started thinking about this because I was interested in what it means for Demon Hunters in the last expansion of WS.

Obviously Illidan will get freed, so as Blizzard likes to do, its a story appropriate time to add to Demon Hunters, as they have kind of lost focus currently as their leader is gone, and the Burning Legion has been scattered.

Illidan could make new hunters (add new races), and would also be a good time to add a 3rd spec to the class, which leads me to void musings that are heavily connected to the current story line.

We obviously have the void to contend with. How did Illidan decide to fight demons? He infused himself with demonic energy, so why not the same for the void? Two ideas here…obviosly some void based spec (ranged?) but then I thought of healer which seems far fetched, but delving into the lore, seems a possibility…

We have the light infused demon Lothraxion, who used to hunt the void…who gave his knowledge of the void over to Alleria, to become what she is…by meeting the void ethereal Locus-Walker, that just so happens to have set Lothraxion on his path to the light in the first place by killing him outside the Twisting Nether.

So bringing this all together…We now have the Void as the main enemy, Naaru as allies/polar opposites, Illidan freed, and a void ethereal that could be helpful guiding us to fight the void? This also makes me think of Xera’s attempt at turning Illidan to the light…He denied the request, but what if other Demon Hunters accepted?

Anyways just musings on where the story might lead us.

Also pure Lore question: I tried my best to find out how/who/where Lothraxion was infused with light, but couldn’t come up with any definitive answer, just vague statements saying he was turned (with others…are there any lore others?). Anyone know or is this just undefined lore?

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It’s unclear when exactly Lothraxion was infused with Light. We just know that prior to that moment, he served the Legion, fought Locus-Walker, who refrained from giving him a permanent death because he saw an interesting future ahead of him.

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It is my understanding that Lothraxion was created by Denathrius and was being a spy for small d death, as in Denathrius believing that what he does will serve the force of death; but I don’t think the force of Death has any person or mind or being in charge at all. And then somewhere along the way, those spying duties had Lothraxion absorb some Fel magic and infiltrate the burning legion when it formed. Then eventually, when an opportunity presented itself…Lothraxion allowed some naaru somewhere to infuse him with Light magic and he infiltrated them also. I think he was working for Denathrius the whole time, even whispering things to Xe’ra to gradually prime and prepare her for believing a prophecy that was fake. A part of the plan of Denathrius and zovaal (as much as I hate the shadowlands expansion…it would be consistent with Xe’ra having a prophecy that did not come true) .

But anyway, your musings about the Last Titan. I kind of think what they are going to do is have Azeroth be the Last Titan…but also simultaneously reveal that maybe Azeroth was the very First Titan as well. Like maybe she was the Prime World Soul that got broken apart into several fragments and each of those fragments became Titans themselves. So when Aman’thul sends the message which Wrathion hears of “Remember, rebuild the final titan” …maybe that rebuilding means that all the Titans need to combine together again and Azeroth is maybe the core piece that must reabsorb all the other Titans and be whole again.

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Personally I hope they DON’T play Lothraxion off as: “Oh he’s just a spy for Denathrius, to spy on the light” – or something like that

  • Many others along with myself like races & such having their own agency — Including Dreadlords.

Having them all unanimously agree and serve one singular grand cause & one ruler, ultimately ruins the attractive appeal of the Dreadlords, along with their intrigue.

I think killing off big names like the titans feels rather … I don’t know, it just feels off.

Maybe not extinguishing them completely, but killing them in the sense we shatter their forms and it’d be millenia before their spirits reform physical & tangible forms — or if we surprisingly imprison them one by one, like we had Sargeras – by some means or another – I would find that way better. :dracthyr_nod:

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We did kill Argus and that only happened with the aid of the other titans, the main one being Eonar and her resurrection tree. On top of Argus being used as a literal battery to keep the Legions war machine running smoothy.

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Lothraxion would be an unfit dreadlord if he didn’t have a multilayered plan that somehow managed to involve both spying for and against Denathrius, betrayal and loyalty at once.

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I feel Culuthas is the perfect example of a Nathrezim with his own agency.

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Culuthas

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I mean yeah sort of, Argus had his world soul used as a battery and if I’m not mistaken was awoken “early” in order to defeat him and use his residual energies to imprison Sargeras.

Additionally, titan souls generally do reform their tangible forms & power over long periods of time as it is — Given the titans were all killed by Sargeras already and have managed to do so, save except Argus who was pumped full of death-energies to get zoomed instantly to the Shadowlands. :person_shrugging:

Ultimately:

:thinking: I guess you could state that once a titan’s form is shattered & their world-souls are launched out into the cosmos — When they reform, it takes awhile for their power to return to their full potential.

It’d be interesting to see us shatter various titans forms then “chase” the world-souls of said-titans down to imprison them, along with then having maybe a few ‘good’ titans help us by acting as their jailors / keepers :blush:

  • Albeit it’d be interesting to see if the void manages to temporarily envelop one of the said-imprisoned titans in their vulnerable forms before we’re able to capture them for imprisonment — and use their power to bring forth the void lords with eternal vestiges of power so they can remain in our reality, before ultimately having the titan regain its free-will and then helping us …

The potential for titans, their power and the forces that can use such tremendous infinitude of possibilities is limitless.

The story can either go phenomenally & spectacularly well, paving the way for many interesting & fun stories to come in WoW’s future … or mayhap be utterly terrible & wasteful :grimacing: … Let us all hope for the former, rather than the latter :pray:

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As one of the very few people who doesn’t think the main Titan pantheon are villains at all… (exceptions like Sargeras…but he’s not in the pantheon) … I find myself not understanding why the other folks who apparently have a zeal for killing and destroying titans won’t be finding themselves in exactly the same quandary with the azeroth world soul because it has mysterious power to reshape reality however it wants…

People complaining that we need an equal balance of all cosmic forces confuse me when they then proceed to say they want 0% of the cosmic force of order. That’s not balance.

I genuinely hope that Metzen instead goes with something closer to the Lonely Gardener model of Titans; which might actually justify and honor all the story I played through for the past 20+ years.

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I think there’s an ordeal towards a large portion of players that just want to kill & slaughter quite literally –

EVERYTHING

that’s powerful or holds a high status of some form or another :person_shrugging:

Personally speaking, I find it rather boring to erase all great powers from the game by simply slaughtering them all – It comes across very zealous in an ego & desping way, as if they’re lead by Lord Farquad from Shrek :joy:

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And thus they don’t have any reason to avoid just fighting and killing and destroying the azeroth world soul also, when it wants to manifest something that they don’t agree with.

Seems disappointing in many ways.

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Sargeras is the one who awoken Argus.

Sargeras: That which you have stolen will be your undoing.
Sargeras: Rise, Argus. Rise, my broken world.

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Argus_the_Unmaker

I honestly have no idea where people get this notion that Argus was awoken by the other Titans when it is clearly shown that it was Sargeras.

The plan was to use Argus, in his world soul state to imprison Sargeras. Which is what happens after the encounter. In the finale cinematic, you can see Argus regressed back to his world soul state after being defeated for a moment.

As shown here

Sargeras awoke Argus in an attempt to kill us while he continued to corrupt Azeroth.

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:sweat_smile: Yeah I realised that sometime after, my mistake - but you get my overall drift — awoken prematurely, powers used against Sargy-dooby’doo and yada-yada-yada …

Do keep in mind they were channeling Argus’ power before Sargeras had awoken them, so I think it’s either misused language & mistake like myself — or a genuine misunderstanding based on the scene :person_shrugging:

But aside from that, the rest of what I wrote from the post you quoted from stands. :slight_smile: