So does that mean you’re in favor of some sort of cap on gathering? Wouldn’t want the “standard player base” to experience any unfairness from people who can farm all day long.
eh…the wife is the cheese lover.
I just follow the rules guy. I tried boxing…didnt like it and quit.
but I dont base what others should be allowed to do on what i do or dont like. I find that sort of behavior petulant and juvenile.
Maybe to accounts that run several accounts in abusing resources yes.
I can agree to adjusting rates them users use with a 3rd party program.
However if you’re running 40 accounts having to alt tab every single account thus making it so you need a mouse and keyboard for every account or having to alt tab every individual client character to move 1 at a time that’s also fine.
I can count on the fingers of one hand the MMOs that don’t allow multiboxing.
Wouldn’t surprise me there isn’t many left in this day and age.
(That are worth mentioning)
Only 4 that ive enjoyed and can think of is Finalfantasy realm reborn, Guildwars2, Wow and ESO
I played a stupid amount of mmo’s but very few caught me more than a month+
I have made no statement to infer this in anyway. I don’t farm goods. I’m simply saying how multiboxxers affect the economy.
you want me to give better responses yet you respond like this?
glad you think so. you can call them jokes, but since you don’t give worthwhile response or actually respond to factual information, laugh all you want.
do you think adding lol to everything you say somehow gives you more credibility?
do you know what gouging is? do you know how competition works in the market? gouging happens when you have inelastic demand or you are price fixing through collusion of some type. whatever you think you’re doing… it’s not price gouging.
holy hell man.
you aren’t buying ALL the ore and ALL the herbs. you would be undercut INSTANTLY. now if it was on an item that was more rare, sure, you can gouge and there is nothing wrong with that.
BUT we aren’t talking about those goods man. we are talking about herbs. ore. we are talking about the most readily available goods.
you don’t need to accept them. I don’t care. it doesn’t even matter.
that isn’t at all what you said. if you want to back pedal, you should have a few posts ago.
you see, when I call someone a liar, I usually have something to back it up. here, i’m saying I saw something, you want to disagree. fine. I don’t care if you trust me. you called me a liar for giving an example of something I saw on tich.
nothing like the real one? so the principals of economics don’t at all apply here?
I thought you wouldn’t sink any deeper, yet here we are.
yes, that drivel you just spewed out is embarrassing. that’s all you and a few others here can do. you can point and laugh but never offer up any points for discussion.
who care if its a video game. the economy here and the tools we have to sell here mirror the ones we use in the real world. Check out TSM or Auctioneer. It’s impressive what these addons can do and how many similarities they have to tools we have in the real market.
No, people aren’t paying for much, but some can and do. Obviously. You can take two seconds to Google gold/mount sellers and find there are people making real world incomes off this game.
It is embarrassing. It’s embarrassing you think people aren’t very serious about this. It’s embarrassing you don’t think people aren’t making a decent amount of money off this game. Selling carries. Selling goods from bot and multibox farming. It’s embarrassing you want to down play this so much. Fake money? Sure, it’s video game currency that translates to real world dollars.
easily. is this a joke?
if you were up on current politics you would know there has been a ton of discussion surrounding the 13th amendment.
“Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”
there are tons of companies currently benefiting from essentially slave labor in the United States on this alone. While the saving don’t pass along to the customer, the actual cost of the goods comes at a fraction of the cost.
you see my dude, I know a lot about this as well relative to my work. We import a lot of finished goods where we charge more then 1000% of the original cost… sometimes even more then that. We are able to do this because we spend time sourcing manufacturers who can produce goods at an exceptionally low price. While I don’t agree with the principals surrounding this, it’s true of just about any good come out of China or many east asian countries.
In the example I provided earlier, China uses actual slave labor to produce goods. They are able to sell it at such a low rate because they LITERALLY don’t pay the workers anything. This is hugely problematic for the economy.
Do you want more examples, or do you want to go on about your 30 years of business experience? I’ll wait.
I’m including all MMOs, past and present.
Dont have to alt tab…just need multiple game windows open A couple big monitors do just fine.
In-game Macros do some of the work. moving the cursor between game windows does the rest.
Boxing will be a thing while the launcher allows it…and even then its easy enough to run multiple computers and cloak IP addresses.
They cant stop bots dude…they wont be able to stop determined boxers any easier.
better just to let them run their games so they dont feel the need to cheat and REALLY ruin everyones game
Sorry guy…not buying it…your way too invested in this topic not to have something in it.
can you? 
you mean like the factual information that boxing isnt cheating? Or that its not botting? I just need to know what facts we’re discussing.
I think you make me giggle with your ‘muh amazon’ jokes.
Better than you apparently.
" Price gouging occurs when a seller increases the prices of goods, services or commodities to a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fair."
You made the claim, the burden is on you to provide proof of your claim.
Whatever, I guess we’re done here if you’re going to keep lying about what I said.
Something you say you saw that you can’t conveniently provide even a shred of evidence for.
You’ve proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are not here to engage in constructive discussion. You’re just going to spread misinformation and lies so you can keep your precious “multiboxing am bad” argument going.
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Tell that crap joke to the BUYERS who bought ALL of my blood stained bone thru the night after I bought EVERY SINGLE ONE posted all day long and jacked the price up 3…4…5 times what I paid for it.
yeah…i got pretty much all of it on my server all day long and make a KILLING over night when I dumped it.
Good lord…just stop…
Nope, I’m talking about a flat cap for everyone, even single accounts. That is if you’re actually concerned about fairness. Wouldn’t want anyone to have any sort of advantage in your Harrison Bergeron dystopian wonderland.
Nope you seen what I wrote that’s what I meant. Wouldn’t want to harm the entire community over some 
sniffers.
Just need to wait on Blizzard to pick up on the issue at this point.
You’re for multibox and I’m for against it.
That’s all there is to be said at this point.
Considering it’s been a issue for years I have little hopes in change so don’t worry about your system to hard now ya hear?
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no…not really. I know you THINK you do…but yeah…no…
exactly.
uh huh.
You all see this folks?
Amazon is apparently telling me that the FINAL PRODUCT is ok to be sold at 1/10 the cost of production and THAT is how a ‘real’ economy works lol
No guy…whats embarassing is you even trying to attempt to disagree with what was provided…" WHAT REAL WORLD product sells frequently for a TENTH of the price of production, guy. Name some."
LMAO…so we have to go back to SLAVERY days to make a point?
what a flipping joke
Guy…last I checked Wow WASNT using slave labor to make products.
But thanks for proving my point that without something as horrific as owning slave you AINT selling a product for 1/10th the price of production.
youre gonna need to try MUCH harder than this joke
dude…you have my sympathies trying to get it …hes busting out the magna carta on me now
Hey…Im still waiting for your answer that DOESNT use slavery jokes to tell me what products are being sold for 1/10th the cost of production…which is VERY common to see in the AH. Mats costing WAY more than the product created with them.
Liittle hint though…even during slavery it wasnt happening.
The COST to produce is lower because of the slave labor…that DID NOT = selling at 1/10th the production cost
Sorry…I should have said that before but Im just wondering how long and what lengths youre willing to take this hoax to over a video game
No issue, gonna be a long wait lol.
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I already bought my bruto mount at the start of the expansion and am sitting on a nice pile of gold from previous expansions. no, i’m not farming herbs and ore.
what’s important to me though is the general health of the economy, and right now, it’s honestly terrible. as I said prior, that’s for a lot of reasons and one of them is multiboxers flooding the market with cheap goods.
oh man. this gets old.
I never said it was cheating. I never said it was botting.
anything else you want to make up?
congrats, you were able to google for a definition.
so since we are talking about ore and herbs, you’re saying you buy all 200-300k gold worth of ore to gouge players? even though in minutes, another player is going to undercut you?
oh boy. here we go. pics or didn’t happen? really? we go from it’s nothing short of impossible to this?
lying about what you said? where?
lol.
this is as rich as it gets. most of you won’t even respond to my comments and then say I don’t want to have a constructive discussion.
so a product that isn’t even in the category we are talking about?
go back???
this is happening right now. holy hell how are lost are you. I’m not one much for BLM, but how have you missed this? There has been a huge national debate and discussion around the 13th amendment in the last couple years. There is even a documentary on netflix.
go back to slavery? really?
the equivalent is happening with multiboxers. that’s why it’s so lucrative. one player is controlling all these additional toons. this makes it ultra efficient to farm money. Yesuna even said they don’t even have to pay for their 10 accounts or however many they have. It’s not 10 players making that gold, it’s one person.
you are disgustingly lost here. slavery is happening right now. in the US. In China… in many countries.
The only joke here is you. you want to deny it’s not happening?
during? you deny it doesn’t happen now?
you really dont want to know what I think about that waste of effort, lol.
I take engineering. I have AHs all over the game. I give gold away to guildies so I wont ever be tempted to waste it on that over priced abomination.
ugh…END OF EXPANSION guy…youre NOT impressing me as a real player here. Ive been at the end of TWO expansions now…legion and BFA…and even I can figure out why the prices are down. Not rocket science dude.
over priced? it’s easily been my best purchase in game. I love it. The level of convenience is huge. I already bought all the other mounts I wanted, so why not this one as well?
the economy has been bad for most of the expansion. this has nothing to do with the end of the expansion. mop, wod, and legion all had healthy economies compared to what we have now up until the end.
but lets not change the topic to much here. I need you to tell me how slavery doesn’t exist these days.