Botting is against the rules, if you find a botter report them. I don’t know about classic but in Retail, and in WoW in general since Vanilla, Bots (especially gatherer’s) run alone. They may have multiple accounts, but you can only pick that herb once. The problem is people conflating multiboxing with Botting, which are entirely different.
Oh please we are only a few years from keyboards no longer existing and essentially being able to mind control our computers. Using networked hotkey has the SAME EFFECT as a hardware device so there isn’t a reason to ban it if the input comes from a player. Boxers can be dealt with if you aren’t a terrible player anyway so time to get good.
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I find it pretty funny to watch these defense of multi-boxers post so long winded and vacant of the negative effects it has on people playing the game normally with 1 account and 1 toon at a time. Then a private server launches and it bans multiboxers and no one is upset, no one writes in discord about how negative the experience is without multiboxers. Matter of a fact a certain server put out a poll about it and 75% of people who filled out survey were against it, so it’s bannable.
But we all know why you can multibox on Blizzards version and it has nothing to do with player experience.
Well see? You can just go play on a pirate server and watch your whole wow experience be erased by lawyer. lol.
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My experience is being erased by cost saving effort levels from blizzard. I have 4 60’s in Classic i’m putting them to rest, because if you just spin up a 1.12 client of this game and throw it on layered mega servers it’s not a good game. You must be active in development for emergent behavior.
a lot of things could have negative effects… the discussion should be whether or not those negative effects warrant the removal of the gameplay.
and it this case, they do not.
This right here should really put the argument to rest. If by some technicality multi-boxing doesn’t violate ToS, it really ought to. If you ask me, 1 keypress for 1 character action for ONE CHARACTER. Honestly multi-boxing is at least as egregious as botting imo. Perhaps more so. At least bots just walk around stupidly collecting stuff (and messing up the economy admittedly).
Sure, in some situations 5 individual players is better than 5 characters controlled by one character, but when I think about my mage casting instant Fire Blasts or CoC’s in complete unison, I think it’s actually more deadly. One human mind is directing the combined firepower of 5 characters. No communication or coordination with other humans needed.
And think about the potential for instance farming! I could go into any dungeon right up to DM or LBRS with 5 decently geared mages and just farm DE mats, herbs, ore all by myself. Piece of cake. Each mage could have a different profession too.
my god how can people not see this as abuse.
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How can they not see it as abuse? Because everyone can make more money with a single mage selling boosts, and it’s miles ahead of what a 5 boxer can do (who also has to gear 5 characters instead of one who just wears eagle greens).
Yea again, I don’t care if it was part of Vanilla. The quest item generating threat was part of vanilla and they patched that. An open LUA allowing addons to literally play your character for you was part of vanilla, and macros had a lot more functionality. NONE of those things are in Classic because they obviously break the fundamentals of the game.
Also you keep ignoring the point. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF FIVE INDIVIDUAL PLAYERS CAN BEAT A FIVE PERSON MULTIBOX. One player should NOT have access to the power of 5 characters by themselves. Period. But I bet you multibox, which is the reason you keep making dumb defenses for it and trying to shut down the conversation while refusing to engage with the arguments. Because “It was in vanilla” is not an argument.
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It isn’t a technicality, Blizzard has explicitly stated multiboxing does not violate the TOS and is permitted. Can’t get much clearer than that.
I don’t personally even care about people multiboxing. I’m just surprised by how many there are haha.
My friend and I are leveling new characters together and just from 1-15 we’ve seen nearly a dozen multi boxers running around. Kind of crazy because I remember seeing a 5 man multiboxer used to be pretty rare.
That’s an opinion you have. You’ve not defended that opinion in the slightest. Statements made without effort or evidence can be dismissed without such as well.
It doesn’t matter if we see it as abuse or not.
Blizzard has stated their stance on multi boxing since vanilla. It isn’t against the ToS, and they have never banned anyone for multiboxing. It’s their decision to make and they have had the same stance for 15 years.
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in my day, we multiboxed shaman
but ya ppl died really fast to shocks-- like in one global lol
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Classic is not retail. It’s pretty clear that it’s being handled by a team that is willing to make wild decisions on what is and is not ok for the “spirit” of the game. So please try something other than just repeating nonsense that only exists to shutdown conversation.
I doubt this is true. Multiboxing was very little a part of vanilla. For three reasons. The advances in computers make it much easier to multibox today than 15 years ago. The quality of the internet most people have today makes it a much more viable option. And it’s possible to buy subscriptions by easily farming gold in retail. For these reasons the numbers of multiboxers has vastly increased.
You can spin it as much as you want for what ever reason but if you had played 15 years ago you’d know how much multiboxing, and many other parts of the game, have changed.
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What else do you want me to say lol
I was responding to a guy who was arguing that multiboxing is somehow against the ToS. Which is clearly isn’t, Blizzard has stated it isn’t and has never taken action against it.
I wasn’t arguing that it was or wasn’t toxic to the game or should be against the ToS. Just on a factual level it currently is not against the rules.
No matter how much you hate it, Blizzards current stance is that it’s fine.
The most popular multiboxing software predates the release of WoW and it was definitely around 15 years ago ( I did play then). No one has the numbers of multiboxers, so far as I know, but it is likely you see more now because of the difference in the population size of the servers. It is easier now, but it can still be challenging and frustrating so not everyone is inclined to try it.
P.S. I’ve occasionally mutiboxed 3-5 starting about 12-13 years ago, mostly for leveling and when I can’t invest the time a guild would take, and just for something different to do.
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But Classic’s stance CAN change. That’s kind of the point.
Once again, that wasn’t what I was arguing in my original post.