Hey!
Was curious for some Priest Lore / RP insight. How could a Priest who can use all three of their specs be explained lore-wise?
One possibility I was thinking of - a largely redeemed Twilight’s Hammer cultist who still occasionally slips back into a darker set of beliefs when especially stressed.
Anyway, curious what all you’ve seen. I love the idea of playing a Priest, but I don’t want to feel locked out of a spec due to RP. Hoping for your help / ideas!
Not quite sure how to put this in words, but there’s a quote from Knights of the Old Republic II that could explain a reason for someone to dabble with both good and dark magics.
“If you are to truly understand, then you will need the contrast, not adherence to a single idea.”
It’s an intresting idea. A twilight cultist coming back from the brink but understanding the need for balance between the two. I could see a Night Elf Priestess using Elune’s shadow aspect as well as her light powers, but you’re taking about the light and void.
If I remember correctly there was a video I saw that mentioned the grey jedi that used both the dark and light side equally. It predates the jedi and sith orders…
Priest lore has been up in the air and all over the place since the retcons in Legion, and in the first Chronicle book, respectively. Before these retcons, a priest using both Light and Shadow was completely normal. We saw Anduin use it, for instance, back in MoP, making a Discipline spec priest a much more logical and even favourable type of priest for lore. There was nothing to do with the Void beyond the original Void Lords, who were just big Voidwalkers with no agenda except for eating souls.
The Twilight’s Hammer at their peak, which was Cata, never used ‘Void’, they used either Twilight magic, which we’ve yet to establish is the same thing as Void, or they used elemental magic bent to their will.
It’s almost ironic that Blizzard made Disc into a Light/Void spec while at the same time creating new lore that made it far more unlikely. The only explanation I can think of is that Shadow and Void are different, with one being a shallower version of the other. That would allow for the concept you described, where they can use both to an extent.
I missed this.
He uses Shadow Word: Pain at least once during the Jade Forest arc, as well as Mind Controls the one dwarf(Sully) briefly in order to slip away again to find the Vale.
I’ll have to go back and do that. I didn’t play through all of Mists.
It’s a short pseudo-scene in Jade Forest about midway through or so. You get a vision of where Anduin is, and it shows him running from a bunch of hozen. He holy fires one, and then casts something Shadow, either Mind Blast or SW:P, at another before getting surrounded. It wasn’t treated as a big deal at all because this was back when Light and Shadow were just treated as magic types same as everything else, with no downside to using either in a heavy fashion.
Originally, Shadow was that dark place in between the Light and the Void.
In some ways it still is, though how MUCH a Priest devotes themselves defines how far they move towards the Void.
Revil Kost, the priest from several of the artifact quests and the Dark Rider comic, can use shadow magic, specifically psychic scream.
First of all, you can’t say ‘‘use all 3 specs’’ Discipline priest already does that, it would be kinda redundant.
Anyways, as mentioned above Priest lore is all over the place, but overall they’re all about Balance of Light and Shadow. You shouldn’t have a problem with your character by using the Discipline specialization. Heck, they even have a Twilight PvP talent thingy.
Discipline spec is already wielding both the Light and Shadow simultaneously so presumably many Priests could use either. Even the Light rabid Scarlet Onslaught had Inquisitors and Raven Priests that used Shadow magic.
This character I write as using all three interchangeably. But I also have him as having been in the Church of the Holy Light, Cult of the Forgotten Shadow and Argent Crusade at various points in life/undeath to explain a functioning knowledge of all three specs.
I wouldn’t say that’s strictly speaking necessary but I wanted to write it that way. Since the discipline learned in, well Discipline spec, seemed a good explanation for why he can use Holy without going insane. Since it’s not at all a pleasant thing for Undead to wield but that’s a unique racial problem. Unless you want a LForged or Velf Priest using all three I don’t think there’s a reason why youd have to explain anything.
I remember that scene. I’m about 95% sure it was Shadow Word: Death.
The 5% is because I’m not specced into that talent that I had since I think the Burning Crusade.
He also used Psychic Scream, right?
I believe so, it was quite a medley, and at the time it was no big deal because that was the lore, priests dipped into Shadow magic, Shadow was a natural part of a cycle and while destructive, generally was used freely.
The big bad magic that wasn’t supposed to be dabbled in was Twilight magic, and that was eventually replaced by Void in Legion/Chronicle.
Depends on the race, honestly; Not all of them get their powers from the same source
Trolls: I could see them using either, or both thanks to the Loa.
Forsaken: Not sure on this one, it would be a rare case.
Draenei: We see them use shadow as a soul priest.
Human: I doubt most Priests would, and would possibly even scorn those that did
Tauren and Night Elf: Night Elfs I could see by using both sides of Elune, and Tauren using the light as the sun and shadow as the moon.
Just some example I can think of off the top of my head.
As far as I am aware, those would be either the corrupted AU Soul Priests, or the MU corrupted Auchenai.
None of the actual Alliance-aligned Draenei use Shadow Magic, we see Exarch Maladaar in the escape of Tanaan calling upon the actual souls of the people to empower him/fight for him. Auchindoun shows us that they use the Light, with the priest who’s showing us around.
Ah, I figured there would have been some of the Soul Priests not corrupted. If I remember the dungeon right some of them were being killed.
Though it was more of an example of how you could explain different ways different races would use both shadow and light.
I have problems with the concept of a Grey Jedi, because I don’t see the so-called “White” Jedi as anything BUT grey in their morality and possessing very little ethics.