I’ll never forget the first time I ran into a multi boxer in vanilla....it was 4 shamans sitting in a totem garden guarding the flag at the mine in AB. I didn’t understand what was going on but soon found out.....as far as I know it was allowed in vanilla, as I saw it throughout....
Also, we made several attempts, but never captured the mine :)
It was likely a multi-boxer keycloner. NOT allowed.
A Multi boxer on PvP call him/her the swarm with about 40accounts.
Multi-boxing is allowed (customer support forum has given that answer clearly over the years) as long as there is a player at the keyboard. Keycloning, when that means clicking "1" is sent to multiple WOW clients, is fine. Botting, when a program sends "1" to multiple WOW clients without any need for player interaction is not.
There's actually plenty of tricks for a relatively aware or coordinated group to take down a multi-boxer. They have to hit single players hard and fast. They don't respond well to multiple players hitting them.
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Separately, I dual-boxed late vanilla and off-and-on during BC, though all I ever did was Alt-Tab. Most of mine was /follow on an alt and a main running them through a dungeon so I didn't have to ask for help (something I'm terribad at).
There's actually plenty of tricks for a relatively aware or coordinated group to take down a multi-boxer. They have to hit single players hard and fast. They don't respond well to multiple players hitting them.
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Separately, I dual-boxed late vanilla and off-and-on during BC, though all I ever did was Alt-Tab. Most of mine was /follow on an alt and a main running them through a dungeon so I didn't have to ask for help (something I'm terribad at).
12/29/2017 09:38 AMPosted by BrokenwindIt was likely a multi-boxer keycloner. NOT allowed.
False statement.
i consider Multi-boxing cheeting
multiboxing has always been permitted.
12/29/2017 11:03 AMPosted by Cheater12/29/2017 09:38 AMPosted by BrokenwindIt was likely a multi-boxer keycloner. NOT allowed.
False statement.
You are correct. A lot of people are buttsore about multi-boxers, but the were paying subs like everyone else. Blizzy isn't going to turn down money.
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In the retail context, multi-boxing is pretty much P2W. P2W + sub fee = wtf? So I would be glad if Blizz ban it, or at least key-cloning, or at least on BGs. I don't think multiboxers are a large portion of their revenue, so they might.
12/29/2017 12:07 PMPosted by NimeralionIn the retail context, multi-boxing is pretty much P2W. P2W + sub fee = wtf? So I would be glad if Blizz ban it, or at least key-cloning, or at least on BGs. I don't think multiboxers are a large portion of their revenue, so they might.
Multiboxers, at least good multiboxers, are rare enough that it hardly effects anyone.
The only time I've ever had a huge problem with a multiboxer was a 5 shaman box sitting at the neck of the Horde's AV base blasting people. Even then we all worked together and managed to kill him. He couldn't recover the rest of the match because we had him on lock.
I was an avid dual-boxer and I will be again in Classic. Always went with the Warrior/Priest combo, it made leveling and running dungeons a breeze!
Part of the benefit of pay to play is that you need to pay to multibox and it makes it legal.
Part of my issue with f2p is that it becomes overly common. Not sure if anyone tried the f2p bracket and seen people 4 boxing priests or mages.
Part of my issue with f2p is that it becomes overly common. Not sure if anyone tried the f2p bracket and seen people 4 boxing priests or mages.
I ran 2 instances of WoW at the same time on my old desktop; its how I leveled 2 characters all the way to 60. For me it was the most efficient way possible.
I would put my paladin on follow, and buff my rogue and heal him as I progressed in leveling. Was awesome because if I got low and could not swap back fast enough; vanish and then alt - tab over and finish the fight on my paladin; throw a heal on my rogue and then tab back over cheap shot and continue while my paladin had aggro.
As far as using robots to play characters; that crap needs to be subject to a permanent ban of the players account; and the names should be forever locked out, and any characters / games on that battle.net acct totally deleted along with any achievements they have on any game attached.
HARSH action teaches lessons, and cheating scumbags need to be banned forever.
I would put my paladin on follow, and buff my rogue and heal him as I progressed in leveling. Was awesome because if I got low and could not swap back fast enough; vanish and then alt - tab over and finish the fight on my paladin; throw a heal on my rogue and then tab back over cheap shot and continue while my paladin had aggro.
As far as using robots to play characters; that crap needs to be subject to a permanent ban of the players account; and the names should be forever locked out, and any characters / games on that battle.net acct totally deleted along with any achievements they have on any game attached.
HARSH action teaches lessons, and cheating scumbags need to be banned forever.
p2w is a loser mentality.12/29/2017 12:07 PMPosted by NimeralionIn the retail context, multi-boxing is pretty much P2W. P2W + sub fee = wtf? So I would be glad if Blizz ban it, or at least key-cloning, or at least on BGs. I don't think multiboxers are a large portion of their revenue, so they might.
I 2 boxed a Rogue/Druid on PvP server at release. That was entertaining to get jumped and at 10% receive out of the bushes a NS/Healing touch, stacks of hots, and GG lol
12/29/2017 11:54 AMPosted by Shlend607BC512/29/2017 11:03 AMPosted by Cheater...
False statement.
You are correct. A lot of people are buttsore about multi-boxers, but the were paying subs like everyone else. Blizzy isn't going to turn down money.
What part of keycloning do you two not grok? Multiboxers were allowed because as you point out they were separate account payments. KEYCLONING is another matter entirely.
12/29/2017 02:26 PMPosted by BrokenwindWhat part of keycloning do you two not grok? Multiboxers were allowed because as you point out they were separate account payments. KEYCLONING is another matter entirely.
Now I'm curious what you mean by keycloning.
The type of keycloning I knew of was something that, if I clicked a key on my single keyboard would "clone" that and send it to several open programs at the same time. Thus I could have two WOW games running, and when I clicked "1" it would be sent to both games, and each character would perform the spell that "1"
was bound to. Mouse movements and clicks were sent to each similarly.
With a PvP multi-boxer at a very basic level, that was usually all the same class, all with the same spells. Target a player with a single mouse click (all characters on all running accounts do so), hit "1" to cast Flame Shock (all characters on all running accounts do so). VERY painful to be the target of 5+ Flame Shocks that are all coming at the same time, especially followed by a similar set of 5 Lightning Bolts.
That's the kind Blizzard is fine with. They don't support it, but it does not violate the ToU and is not considered cheating (except by other players when they get hit like that). As far as Blizzard is concerned, they have a paying customer running those characters, sitting at the keyboard and making decisions.
What other kind do you mean?
I two box sometimes. I have two active accounts. But it is not the amazing coordinated stuff that some can do. I just drag alts through instances and sometimes around to holiday places, like summer fest etc. For the gold on the max toon and the xp and flight points on the lower toon. So, yeah, real basic. On one computer with two monitors.
12/29/2017 02:58 PMPosted by Eilethalua12/29/2017 02:26 PMPosted by BrokenwindWhat part of keycloning do you two not grok? Multiboxers were allowed because as you point out they were separate account payments. KEYCLONING is another matter entirely.
Now I'm curious what you mean by keycloning.
The type of keycloning I knew of was something that, if I clicked a key on my single keyboard would "clone" that and send it to several open programs at the same time. Thus I could have two WOW games running, and when I clicked "1" it would be sent to both games, and each character would perform the spell that "1"
was bound to. Mouse movements and clicks were sent to each similarly.
With a PvP multi-boxer at a very basic level, that was usually all the same class, all with the same spells. Target a player with a single mouse click (all characters on all running accounts do so), hit "1" to cast Flame Shock (all characters on all running accounts do so). VERY painful to be the target of 5+ Flame Shocks that are all coming at the same time, especially followed by a similar set of 5 Lightning Bolts.
That's the kind Blizzard is fine with. They don't support it, but it does not violate the ToU and is not considered cheating (except by other players when they get hit like that). As far as Blizzard is concerned, they have a paying customer running those characters, sitting at the keyboard and making decisions.
What other kind do you mean?
That is precisely what I mean. When did blizzard become "fine" with it?
edit: This is pretty F'd up. Just did a search and found a thread where blues say that even in BGs keycloning is fine. I'd swear that back in the day, IF you were multiboxing, you could only control one of the characters at a time when PvPing (mainly WPvP). Allowing this now is a simple money grab from a idiotic PTW situation.