MrGM's Interview with Ion Hazzikostas on race/class combos

Watch from min 3:20.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAzgZtQazWQ

Before I begin my rant, a little background on Ion:

Before he was hired by Blizzard back in 2008, Ion used to send coding and written strategy tactics to the developers for raid mechanics. He was exceptional in this field and proved very intelligent in that, which lead to his eventual recruitment. He worked in raid boss design and mechanics, class design and balancing, and maintaining the WoW achievement system. This was fine and he did a lot of good work whilst employed in these subjects.

Until he got promoted to Game Director for WoW. And then he began to extend an uninspired, very strict and underwhelming mentality on matters with which he had zero connection in his previous work. Such as LORE. Making unnecessary comments about how simple it is to just play a Blood elf if you wanna be a fair, blue eyed elf… which admits a huge disconnect from the community concerning that topic.

Then he interfered in the design of Void elves in Legion, leading to a great amount of gatekeeping with not allowing them to be DHs or Palas, and insisting in keeping them blue. This went on for a few years until they realised the ridiculousness of these restrictions.

Now, we’ve gone from him seeming positive to the idea of lifting class /race restrictions, to backtracking 100 steps and saying there are no plans for anymore expansion of these.

And let’s be honest, the Horde benefitted much more from the class/race combos added in DF. It’s easily seen by having a quick look at char creation. Instead, they are investing even MORE time on the Drakthyr…

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Let’s face it, they are just saving it for when sub numbers dip.

When the money stream starts to look like it might dry up, that’s when Blizz gives the people what they want.

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They won’t come out and say it, but the obvious truth is that they’ve added all the class/race combos that take no effort and all that’s left are the ones they’d actually have to make new art assets for. So they’re stopping, or at least drastically slowing down.

It’s not that you can’t come up with a concept for a mechagnome druid. It’s that nobody would play a mechagnome druid, because mechagnomes are stupid, so why bother wasting time making custom forms for them?

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I think the most likely scenario is that making the animations for dracthyr to be other classes is time consuming and bothersome for them, and now they just dont want to put in the work for the other races to get new classes as well.

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What I would do in this situation would be:

Step 1 - Make some rad robot animals.

Step 2 - Use those rad robot animals as Druid forms for Mechagnomes.

Step 3 - Reuse those rad robot animals as Mech Pets for Hunters.

Step 4 - Buff Mech Pets and make them the best Pet Family.

Step 5 - Profit :smiley:

We might see something like that in the Last Titan. If we fight Titan stuff, we may end up fighting lots of robots, which would make a great excuse to make all sorts of robot models, including some animal shaped robots.

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Brother, the community is not connected to these sorts of things. Lore is a very niche concern, believe it or not. I know that’s hard to believe in a place like these forums where the majority are very casual players. But, believe it or not, wow has a huge amount of semi hardcore players. Most people don’t watch a single cutscene the entire campaign because they want to get to max level as fast as humanly possible.

He didn’t back track, he just said it’s not happening in the immediate future, they never gave us a timeframe. We still don’t know what the big features of Midnight or the Last Titan will be, so it could very will be they’re holding out until then.

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Has Ion Hazzikostas not been fired yet?

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Why would he be?

Right now. Too much to do getting three expansions out in a trilogy faster than before.

And honestly? Good. Part of me hopes Metzen looked at them and said, “Helldamnno.”

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They’ve already put in the effort to make a Void Elf paladin in the new quest.

We will definitely be getting more of these class combos in the future, we just don’t know when.

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He didn’t say there are no plans ever though. He just said it’s harder for certain race/class combos to be added that fit with the lore. Doesn’t mean it won’t be done. Just means they’ll take steps to make certain concepts feel more normal. I mean just look at the number of negative reactions there were to the presence of a void elf paladin npc recently. But over time it will feel less unfathomable. Or more fathomable? Either one.

I 100% agree with this.

When they need a “I win” button, that’s when we will see races open up to more classes, worgens get a tail option, and more racial model features like hair styles, etc.

Right now there is no reason to put in the extra legwork, when people will be focusing on the new zones, devles, raids and dungeons. I mean they even are tossing in a new battle ground, lol.

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I think if they truly needed a panic button, they would of made Tuskarr a playable race. It’s a win. I’ve known players that would come back to the game just to okay Tuskarr. But they obviously didn’t need it.

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I don’t think that’s true.

Over my years of WoW, I’ve found that there’s only one thing that makes or breaks a Race’s popularity:

Physical attraction.

Every popular race is either conventionally attractive to mainstream audiences (like the Elves) or at least extremely attractive to a large enough non-mainstream niche audience (like Orcs and Vulpera).

I don’t think there’s enough of a target audience for the Tuskarr. They may have a dedicated fanbase (every race does), but the question is: Is that fanbase large enough?

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I agree, in my experience I’ve heard many people I raid with or do dungeons and people not playing mention Tuskarr. I probably wouldn’t play one.

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There is nothing new to fit, that doesn’t already fit with the current game. An entire races cultured doesn’t need to be changed to make the class/race combos work.

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Only if you don’t care about established lore. Which I have to tell you, a lot of people do.

Established lore already allow outliers. This isn’t warhammer 40k, you aren’t condemning an entire planet because you picked up the wrong book.

Well if his statement means anything like ‘‘not for another 2 years at least fam’’ then that’s not good enough. Void elf Paladins and DHs should’ve been released some 7 years ago along with their Legion launch. I still find it incredibly shocking they were not. Imagine not letting a race that shares the exact same model with Blood elves not have access to the same classes as they do. I don’t care how lore unfriendly Void elf paladins would’ve been, it’s even more offensive to gatekeep Void elf players in this way. And had they used their brain and given us some void effects along with Paladins and DHs, people would think it’s super cool. But no. Always the bare minimum and less.