Weren’t you night elf fans having a meltdown when you thought Malfurion was perma-dead? Now he isn’t good enough to be a “true” Night Elf? Along with the hordes of Night Elves that follow him.
I mean, no.
It just means the person in charge agreed with you.
This is another result of wow inconsistency. The role druids play in leading the NEs at the time, prior to their sleep, actually was depicted as larger in the Warcraft 3’s PDF retelling of things, which is where all of the exile of the highborne, ban of arcane, etc stuff actually came from. They were viewed as leaders of their people when this material was written.
But similarly to how a lot of races, not just Nes, didn’t like arcane originally and just tolerated it but thought it was still evil or were wary of it, retcons to the setting changed the perception of the magic and kinda weaned off the old ideas. Malfurion exiling the Highborne back in the day, referenced even in WoW, was them conjuring an arcane storm over Ashenvale to protest his decision.
Oh lord no.
You definitely shouldn’t lump me in with that.
I’m an old school poster who was around for a long time. I’m just sticking my head in.
There was like a 4 year period where I was directly responsible for Malfurion being extremely hated. Malfurion can go away. He’s a terrible person .
Tbf, that moment in Cataclysm was an extremely weak point for his character writing. WoW doesn’t lean into how protective of the Kaldorei people he was actually shown to be. His final words to Illidan were essentially a threat that if he ever, in any capacity threatened the Kaldorei again, he’d ““do something”” (specifically what we dunno because Illidan ran away lmao)
Not really. Support doesn’t remove responsibility.
And the person responsible is the person with the authority to do it, not the person who said “Hey, we should do this”
Of course it is. The origin of druids in Warcraft’s setting was Night Elf units. It was their thing in the RTS days. Druid even in early wow wasn’t actually “user of nature magic” it was fairly specific to the Circle’s teachings. Loa Priests have a ton of the same abilities- nature origin powers, shapeshifting, etc, and aren’t considered Druids. Races like the Zandalari outright say they do not have nor want druids in classic because it implies beliefs they don’t like nor want. They have Haruspex, who are described as virtually the same thing with completely different beliefs, because druidism in early days wasn’t just a denominator of those specific powers.
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The person responsible is the person who did it, Malfurion. He said do it and they did.
No, he said do it and Tyrande enforced it. Because she was the Sole leader.
You’re both right. In current lore he wouldn’t have had any real authority to enforce it, so Tyrande must’ve accepted and agreed with it. In the lore from wc3, when the exile was written? Maybe not because the Druids were depicted outright as leaders of the race before Ysera’s pact called them into the Dream.
This confusion is blizzard changing the actual causes for things in the lore but not the result, leading to confusing stuff.
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If Tyrande and the others did it because he said so, he’s responsible.
And he was the spiritual leader.
She’s the physical and spiritual leader, her authority comes from god
In some of the novels, it’s mentioned people bow to her out of reflex and see her as the literal vessel of Elune. Wolfheart.
There are leaving Kalimdor and here is proof directly from the post-raid story:
What you posted doesn’t even point to that direction.
First of all, those two examples don’t exist in a vacuum. There are DOZENS of references to it be a new home for all the Kaldorei.
Tyrande herself literally says this is their new home. Bro, what are you smoking and can I have some?
How are the dragons restoring a people with the birth of Amirdrassil if they are thriving in their homelands?
Night Elves don’t even get agency in their own renewal. The dragons did it?
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If they weren’t leaving Kalimdor and just had presence there as well as the Dragon Isles, would you be happy? I don’t think insisting they’re leaving Kalimdor is a hill worth dying for if you still have issue with the creation of Amirdrassil and where it is located. Like that’s still a problem.
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I address this in my original post almost verbatim.
Sorry, I missed the edit.