Are two examples in this patch alone.
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Okay, even besides all the story stuff even prior to this patch itself calling Amirdrassil the new homeland of the Kaldorei people.
How else do you read Tyrande saying stuff like “our people will finally have a home” or “why would they deny my people a right to a home” lmao. She’s not saying ANOTHER, they’re just outright acting like Kalimdor doesn’t exist. At BEST, they’re implying a vast majority of their focus is going to be here now. Compared to their OG primary identity being GUARDIANS OF KALIMDOR.
Imo, that would split their people too much. I understand why there’s a desire for Eldre’thalas, but I think it’s gotta be remembered that Kaldorei welcomed back the magic, not necessarily the beliefs of the Highborne. They aren’t really trying to live in old ruins.
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The capital is relocated from Kalimdor to an island closer to the Eastern Kingdoms.
IDK what some of these responses are, honestly. Do people really think geographic relocation of your largest and most important city 70% of the known world away (from vague estimation using the map) is something of no significance?
You don’t have to agree with the entire premise of the OP but I don’t think supposing Amirdrassil’s location has no significance in the context of this plot makes any sense.
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“it’s fantasy, it doesn’t have to be like RL” feels like the logic- but fantasy is meant to go off it’s own internal logic that is semi realistic within itself. And realistically, people who are physically and tangibly spiritually connected to their lands wouldn’t just move en mass to *largely abandon it.
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I think the rampant use of teleports by the game probably plays a part in not feeling like the distance matters, but it’s pretty clear even without reaching into the books that that’s a significant degree of gameplay abstraction.
We have very fast planes and instant telecommunications far better and more ubiquitous than Azeroth but I imagine any country suddenly relocating their political and logistical capitals to a random island in the Pacific would be a cause of significant consternation among their populace, even if it followed a major disaster or invasion to the prior capital.
Hell, IRL, Korea creating a backup governmental capital for Seoul that is not within the firing range of artillery across the DMZ has caused a lot of political problems.
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The remainder of what population, exactly?
The ones slaughtered by the Horde when marching through Ashenvale? The ones in Darkshore? Because last we heard, Darkshore was abandoned for being uninhabitable. But even before that, lorewise, it was mostly unlivable. Auberdine was a fairly small town, and it was the ONLY town that had existed in Darkshore for 10,000 years. The place was unlivable before significant resources went into making it livable. Resources that were possible by the existence of Darnassus being off the coast.
You have Felwood, largely staffed by neutral druids as members of the Emerald Circle.
You have Feralas, which is an iffy guess. It may be a decommissioned base post Cataclysm considering the end of MoP was about the Night Elves bringing those resources to defend the border. I honestly don’t recall if it was mentioned in Kalimdor book.
But even beyond that, these places have no form of support. No form of military. No form of anything. They are the equivalent of the few humans struggling to live in places like the Plaguelands. If they exist at all.
This pretend idea that there is a thriving population of Kaldorei who lived outside of Darnassus is weird.
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Go read a book.
Specifically Exploring Kalimdor, which makes it clear that the Night Elves reclaimed all their lost territory from the Fourth War. Do you really think, in that fur covered brain of yours, that if they were going to leave Kalimdor that they’d have bothered to fight the Horde to reclaim it? Of course not.
Brain-rot is real, and you should get that treated.
There is none, just Night Elf players pretending the developers said it so they can be upset.
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Go read a newer book and interview where they put a sticker on it saying “continuity doesn’t matter” then come back and read the actual in-game story.
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Okay?
We know Amirdrassil is going to be their new capital. This is not news.
What you troggs keep claiming is that somehow this means that the Night Elves are leaving Kalimdor. There’s no evidence supporting that claim. At all.
HOMELAND. It is going to be their new capital and HOMELAND. They are saying they do not HAVE A HOME as a PEOPLE until the tree is developed.
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“Why do they deny our people a home?”
not, “another home” not “a place of refuge” not “a new city”
If the Kaldorei home is Kalimdor and they’re staying there, why does Tyrande (and every other NPC) act like they’re not?
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I thought they were talking about Teldrassil, which wasn’t the entire Night Elf population. A civilization can live on more than one continent.
If they’re really getting the Night Elves to leave Kalimdor, that is a very stupid idea.
It’s even worse because in real-life we have TWO major wars with land disputes as a major factor - the Russian Invasion of Ukraine and the latest round of fighting between Israel and Palestine.
This would like be like saying the people in those situations should give up their land. I agree, this would be a horrible move by Blizzard (worse than the “dragon sterilization” arc or Nipple Thanos’ story).
See above for my reasoning. I agree that having the Night Elves give up Kalimdor is a horrible idea.
Do the Night Elves still control Darkshore, Ashenvale and parts of Stonetalon, Feralas, Felwood, Hyjal, Moonglade, Winterspring, Azshara and Desolace?
Yes.
Are there any indications in lore that they plan on leaving those territories? No.
Until you can provide receipts showing that they are planning on leaving Kalimdor, stop using your foolish headcanon and pretending its canon lore.
“If you guys stand by the beliefs presented in your story, what is your opinion on these wars”
Danuser’s face going pale.
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I’ll address this again here.
It wasn’t their entire population, but it was the vast majority of it. And it also is a bit of a weird claim because even the towns throughout Ashenvale were destroyed and it’s people killed.
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They’re not though, that’s the thing. If they were planning that, the Kaldorei wouldn’t have bothered retaking Darkshore, which besides what people want to claim, they did and I think the Kalimdor book the Kaldorei also retook most of Ashenvale up to the Ramparts. A lot of their holdings on Kalimdor are secure
As noted several times now, they’re not abandoning Kalimdor.
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Exactly.
Someone with some sense, finally.
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“I choose to not read the current lore and insist books blizz already started retconning from day 1 are the superior vision of what im literally being told in the current questline that just came out.”
Y’all devaluing what a capital and homeland is as if it’s just a place like 3 people live is silly LMAO.
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Because they didn’t know they would get a new home elsewhere.
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