So the other day I decided to make a shadow priest alt. While I was several hours in it, I realized how behind and how much work it would take to make this alt relevant.
You have to grind all the conduits, get relevant gear, grind torghast (yes I can send my alt soul ash) for cinders and still be thousands of sim dps behind.
Let me note that this community isn’t friendly at all. 2400xp experience required in any sort of 3s game (btw anyone is barely playing pvp) or asking for ksm to do a 3 of 4 mythic key. This community is part reason why new players have such a hard time adapting to this game. They never get a chance to actually learn. It just hit me being on this alt how tough it it to play solo.
I miss BFA where I had two relevant alts that were easier to keep up. Having an alt is too time consuming and this means I’ll be playing less of this game.
Really? My DH is renown 41, wearing a legendary and running LFR. All within a week of hitting 60. Why can’t you guys just be honest and say you want your alts to be mains without doing the work.
There really is only one requirement for an expansion to be alt friendly:
The ability to be able to have time to play alts without holding back your primary character.
Shadowlands is failing in this regard. You have to choose between playing your main and getting everything done you need to to maximize your character, or playing alts, and this is even more dramatically the case if you have limited time, which is true for most people I would assume.
This isn’t even covering things like mythic+ which I feel very strongly, that kind of thing isn’t even just an alt issue really. The issues apply to everyone, alts more strongly to be sure but no one gets any easy time trying to get into Mythic+ unless they have a lot of friends doing them.
Oh man, I feel ya on this. My Priest was held up at renown 40, and I was dreading taking him to Korthia and catching up on the campaign. But something interesting happened…he blasted through the content faster than my lock, with ease. I’m actually looking forward to playing him later today.
I think I was dreading redoing all that stuff, because I’ve been burned out lately with all games in general. Having better gear probably helped that too. Now to get over the hump on my other alts stuck at 40 RN.
I do agree that previous expansions were better for alts, by far, though.
Couldn’t resist could you? I want to be able to do content with alts, not pick flowers and pet battle. Every one with the 2nd main bolognia. I want to not spend 20 minutes fighting a single eliete in the maw. That doesnt happen with ilvl 200 gears .
As far as player power goes, at least you can get 200+ ilvl gear easily.
The anima farm is what really annoys me. In Legion it was pretty easy to farm the artifact appearances and (some) of the class hall sets, and the same goes to the mounts. If you want a alt just for the cosmetic covenant stuff you are reeeeeaaally screwed by the anima farm. Is painful.
Umm then go to Korthia and grind out some research and get your pieces to 226. That won’t happen in a day or even two unless you live there but you can aim for slotting 207s and 213s and things get considerably easier. My DH alt doesn’t pick flowers and pet battle. She does torghast, Maw dailies, covenant callings, lfr, Korthia and sometimes M0 for now. If you aren’t willing to even spend an hour or two trying to male your alt less alty, then what do you expect? Really? What do you hope to gain from doing nothing?
The only thing that feels unfriendly is conduits. Raising renown is fast, torghast is like a 20-40 minute task each week(plus you can mail soul ash), and korthia has made it super easy to catch alts up to current content.
Archivists’ Codex is pretty much account wide, so your only “chore” on an alt would be farming relics to upgrade your catch-up gear. Yes, it takes time away from playing your main, but you’re not really forced to do everything each day on an alt.
Tuesdays can feel overwhelming with multiple characters, but you have an entire week to complete everything.
Seriously? I find my spriest to be subpar to my enh shaman by a mile. The damage “ramp up” feels long and doesn’t feel impactful. What’s ur alts name? I wanna look at him/her and see if maybe I’m doing it wrong.
It’s always been “unfriendly”, not like you could pass down attunements to your alts during TBC or something.
If you have the time to invest in alts you do and if you don’t, you don’t. Nothing’s changed besides alts becoming easier to manage each and every expansion. They are always adding QoL~~ May not have had extra systems and the like in the “good old days” but you had other stuff slowing you down.
Tbh the thing I keep hearing consistently is that the only people actually enjoying themselves these days are living in isolated bubbles in their comm or guild with little to no contact with the pug playerbase. And frankly I don’t blame them. The pug community is the worst it’s ever been imo. Blizz really needs to step in or this spyral wow is in is gonna kill the game more than Chorghast ever could.
The only content creator for example that actually pugged on rare occasion as far as I know was Preach and he’s bailed.
Make unlocks and all achievements account wide, get rid of timegating, and get rid of borrowed power.
Oh look, I just wrote out how to fix WoW.
Too bad bLiZzArD qUaLiTy means this won’t be done.
That’s literally one day of playing the alt, and it’s spent gearing the alt up in dungeons. And also attunements went away as the patches came down the line.
It used to be Level ==> Gear ==> Done
Now there’s like a dozen extra steps and BS you have to do… and that’s entirely a modern WoW problem which it’s competition doesn’t suffer from.
Idk,how you’re play style but it’s not hard to solo content in this game doing it normal casual. A few days of play you’ll get to 60 in no time but if you are referring to max that will take time or you can just rush in with others ,your choice.
Yeah but if you had an alt that was going to be for raiding your guild was usually willing to get you attuned. Wasn’t like a complicated process. Certainly not after they made heroics honored.
Lmao. Alts in Wrath and Cata were insanely easy to manage. MOP and WoD as well. Coincidentally it didn’t really start becoming a problem until borrowed power systems. Even more amusing, they literally announced this expansion stating it would be “far more alt friendly.”
Ah yes, like being slowed down because my ability to attune aside from a handful of heroics I could do on my own time and knock out in a day was tied to raiding and clearing the content. . . something most guilds were capable of by 2.3 unless their guild really sucked and was still progging in t5. My guild used to sell Kael and Vashj kills. Really don’t know where you’re getting this “slowing you down” aspect from. We carried people in greens with no problem and it wasn’t like Rage Winterchill in Hyjal was hard for guilds to do on their own if they could enter Hyjal which was the step for BT attunement.
I will never understand why people pretend attuning in TBC was something on par with exalted with every single reputation per character.
You attuned to Kara and Heroics.
You killed Gruul + Nightbane for SSC.
You did Cipher of Damnation (easy questline btw) then Trials of Naaru which took Heroic dungeons then killed Magtheridon for TK.
Then you killed Vashj and Kael for Hyjal.
Then first boss in Hyjal for BT.
It’s good games like XiV have options like that but I know personally when I played it I ran out of content pretty quickly and then got bored by the cycles… but for some that’s their jam.
If that sort of environment exists already sounds good, leave it as an option for folks, for sure.
Yeah, I totally trust you did. Just like I trust your opinion on TBC attunements considering you make it clear you have no idea what you’re talking about.
If anyone was wondering whether blizz was full of complete and utter garbage when it comes to “alt friendly”, well…ladies and gentlemen, I present to you emphatic proof:
