More bag space/storage place please

Let us even pay to unlock more void storage.

That would be good. I’m sick of carrying all this crap around that I don’t need.

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What are you carrying around that requires so much space? I’m a hoarder on my druid and I still have adequate space, so I’m really genuinely confused.

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Just a few more months then you can get rid of the trash , hold on

“More bad space” XD… more Goldshire comin right up!

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If you don’t need it, why are you carrying it around? :thinking:
Struggling to think why someone genuinely needs more than what… it’s got to be at least more than 400 available spaces.

Actually curious btw.

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why cant we deposit unique items into void storage

its so annoying, so much space wasted because of some arbitrary “no uniques lulz” requirement

i mean to me this is like one of those situations like “why not add more space, it doesn’t hurt”

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There are loot rules in place that get evaluated when a boss drops loot that checks against the unique restriction and that process is able to peak into bank/inventory slots but not the void storage system is why.

Spoken like a true non-engineer :slight_smile:

It may seem inconsequential to add more tabs and slots but performance is a concern where you could have thousands of players on a realm at any given moment. You have to factor in the bandwidth and storage costs at the database level to read/write/maintain that data, the storage cost of that data to reside in memory on the game server while you’re connected, and then the bandwidth cost to serialize that data over the network to the client every time you open your inventory, bank, or void storage.

I’m not a WoW engineer myself but given that we can have up to 1000 stackable items in DF, that tells me that the inventory system likely consists of:

  • Stack count uint16 (2 bytes)
  • Item ID uint32 (4 bytes), maybe even uint64 (8 bytes)
  • Slot within inventory uint16 (2 bytes)
  • Inventory Type uint8 (1 byte)

So for every item you hold onto worse case, that consumes 13 bytes and since you typically need to pad structs in memory to 8-byte boundaries, you’re looking at 16 bytes per slot.

  • Inventory = (4 bags x 32 slots) + 20 slots (w/authenticator) = 148 slots
  • That is 2,368 bytes for one player’s inventory storage.

Now WoW doesn’t technically delete characters, the characters are just marked with a flag to indicate their deleted, so let’s just say that 10 million character records exist, although I suspect it’s far larger than even that.

  • 10M characters = ~24GB

And again I’m just looking at this from the character’s inventory. That value more than triples when you consider both the bank and void storage.

That doesn’t seem like a lot when you talk about today being a terra/peta -byte storage but it’s not just about the storage on disk but the latency to seek to and read the data off disk that can be problematic as well.

Changes like this require lots of thought or you run into performance problems like the older AH that used to be extremely slow, for different reasons, but the same principles applied there too.

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What they need to do is expand the currency tab. I have a full 32 slot stupid bag of ZM crafting mats for mounts/pets on all my toons. Also numerous SL keys you find, random SL items, stupid Korthia stuff still. Necro stitching stuff on multiple toons. My mats tab in my bank is completely full on most toons for crafting stuff. There’s just too much stuff!! Or the fact I can’t delete stupid BFA neck or 3 (4 druid) legion weapons + legion leggos you cannot delete they HAVE to take up bank space.

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Bring it on Blizzard.

100 slot bags, 1 copper piece at a vendor in front of the AH. DO IT.

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Void storage is stupid turn it into server storage for anything for all our characters

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Isnt “bad space/storage” called the Spk Bnk ?

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better to just stop with the bajillion currencies altogether. too many systems with their own currency to keep track of why is it so stupidly complicated

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The separate currencies are fine to me but all these numerous amounts of items from each expansion omg and SL is the worst by far. Or a 3rd bank tab for “expansion items” or something for each expansion I dunno. I want my darn bags empty for once. I have 1 empty 32 slot bag and my backpack on me if I vendor everything I don’t need. That’s it.

Conversion systems would be a nice idea, trade currencies for other currencies.

You use your void storage? I haven’t had anything in mine since they gave us the appearance collection.

Get rid of
or
Replace with 10.0 trash?
:laughing:

I can help with that :slight_smile:

Let’s say you’re a collector, like me :wave:, and there are transmogs you want to craft, maybe you know the recipe maybe you don’t but either way you don’t have all the mats :frowning_face: Now let’s say you have 2 of 4 needed mats for one item and 1 of 4 needed mats for another and so on and so on and so on and so on and you have a ton of parts of transmogs so you need it all but just not right now.
Go buy it you say? Sure, but what if they are broke?
Go farm it you say? Sure, but they still have other stuff to do as well and maybe they don’t have every profession in the game to farm all necessary materials.

I’m personally not a fan of “moar bag space” I want something different :slight_smile:

How many bag slots do Garrison Resources or Apexis Crystals take up?

None, why? Because they are a “currency”, what makes them special? Nothing, other than Blizz designing it that way. They could design it so reagents function like currencies

Are your LEGIONdairies in your bank?

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They are. Good idea!

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As a packrat and achievement addict, yes… Space. Is. Never. Not needed.