That’s technically correct, but somewhat false in spirit. A Tauren dying of an incurable Naga poison came to UC. She was too far gone and there’s no way to save her. The Forsaken apothecary there wants to test a cure on her that will let him save any other Tauren poisoned in the future. He tests it without asking her, she dies peacefully, and it’s a success.
Morally grey for sure, but not exactly “They are experimenting on Tauren in UC!”
So if death is not necessarily portrayed as evil, even then, as Light is no longer seen as just good. Forsaken still have a chance at redemption I would suppose. Maybe Sylvanas does as well. That would support that morality in this game isn’t as black and white as it may seem. And I doubt we’ll ever see the Forsaken actually leave the Horde so, redemption seems the only way out here.
The opinion insomuch as I understand it, is that Sylvanas and her Cult of Personality are what is drowning the Horde. I don’t want the Forsaken removed. I want Sylvanas and her Cult removed.
It depends entirely on the context. Political bonds with other parties requires effort. Push and pull, give and take. With Sylvanas, she didn’t try to consider them during the burning of Teldrassil. What’s worse, she alienated Baine and Saurfang by taunting Varok about his dead son and doing things that would test the limits of their morality.
Leadership has many burdens, one of them being the balancing of the keys to power. The ruler has the power to cut out keys who no longer serve a purpose but the ruler has to hear the needs of the keys, or at least hear them from enough of the keys, lest the ruler get replaced by the court.
The latter is likely to happen and the latter is likely why we’re going to see another civil war arc, which no-one wants. It’s not great.
I look at the link you gave and found this in her bio under notes.
- Despite dying in the vanilla quest, she remained alive after Cataclysm.
it also says this in her page
Status Deceased (Lore) / Alive (WoW)
Not sure if we’ll see that any time soon but it may happen at the very end or next expansion. No way to tell at this point.
having DMed more than a few games in my lifetime, I could almost not fault Blizzard for forgetting that one NPC was dead.
Except for that they have a massive fanbase who keeps track of this and keeps an updated wikipedia. Holy crap.
I’ve got faith.
Whoops sorry for double post, fellas.
Then we’ll chalk this up to laziness of not taking her out of the game.
Thrall thoo?? lol…
I don’t have a problem with Thrall.
Actually that is exactly what they were doing.
Same as we humans IRL experiment on living animals and people to determine cures and treatments.
It just depends on how you interpret the information. The words themselves are factual.
These new forums… I learn something new everyday.
I just don’t see Metzen really coming back… as unfortunate as that sounds. Which kinda retires Thrall from being a prominent character again.
He was already scheduled to come back. The only reason he didn’t was due to back surgery, which he recently healed from.
He may come back in some capacity but i’m just not sure about Thrall as he hasn’t had any presence in the current story. What do you mean he’s scheduled to come back and for what? I can’t find anything on this.
He was scheduled to be a key player in Vol’jin’s current plot.
https://i.imgur.com/doPeeVU.jpg
Maybe we’ll know more about his use when the raid comes out or something. That’s interesting I didn’t even see that.
It was the pre BFA Blizzcon. We’re not going to see it. Baine is filling in and I guess it’s for the best because it would’ve killed me to see Thrall bend the knee the way Baine has.
I wouldn’t mind hearing Thrall’s input in all this though. I feel like he would stand up more to Sylvanas than the current other leadership has. Where tf is Thrall at anyway?