MoP Classic > Run It Back

After the announcement of Cataclysm Classic, everyone knew right then and there that MoP was definitely coming next. Of all the “classic” expansions, Cataclysm was undoubtedly the least expected one, and yet here we are.

However, I was one of the few people who saw it coming from the very beginning. I always thought of Cata and Mists as part of the “Extended Classic Era.” They’re not the OG trilogy, but I wouldn’t consider them to be retail either. They’re somewhere in-between.

Here’s my era theory…
• Classic Era: Vanilla > WotLK
• Extended Classic Era: Cata > MoP
• Borrowed Era: Legion > BfA
• Current Era: Dragonflight > ???
(draenor and shadowlands were fever dreams and never actually happened)

With that in mind, I could totally see them extending the classic journey to Mists of Pandaria. However, instead of continuing to re-release every WoW expansion (TWW Classic Hype) I think what they should do is start fresh.

Restart the cycle with #SomeChanges. Use everything you learned from your initial classic launch to deliver a more polished and enjoyable product.

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Probably not the best choice of terms. “Classic Era” is synonymous with the expansion-less version of WoW AKA vanilla WoW. Probably would be better to just call it “Extended Classic”.

Sword Art Online style dynamic progression servers is what we need.

48 hour window to make toons, then char creation locked, server opens. if you beat Classic, TBC unlocks etc.

new server opens with same rules monthly. servers without a new kill in 30 days close.


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I doubt it was just a few people that saw that coming. I think most of us saw that coming. And I think every time we see a new retail release we will see the next classic release.

Question is, when Classic gets around BfA Classic will they start a 3rd round with Vanillia, TBC, Wrath, etc? Then when that gets to BfA will they start a 4th, etc?

As for your list I would consider “Classic” to run at least from Warcraft III through Shadowlands. It’s the story that starts with Arthas being controlled, to some extent, by Zovaal the Jailor and his allies in Shadowlands until that issue is resolved.

Some might point to an earlier time in Warcraft II where we see Gul’dan trying to open the tomb of Sargeas and Ner’Zhul who would become the first Lich King.

I don’t know if even Blizzard has any idea where they’re going with this. They’ll keep it up as long as people keep falling for being resold the same game again.

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Movie studios and streaming services do this sort of thing. I remember as a kid my parents taking me to see Cinerella, Snow White, Sleaping Beauty, Fantasia, etc. all of which were out 20 years or so earlier.

More recently streaming services like Netfix will run a movie “On demand” for a time then pull it making it unavailable before releasing it agin a decade or so later.

Time locked would be the only workable ruleset for a dynamic progression game.

Its like a Shakespearean tragedy except its hilarious.

On topic - if it wasn’t going to be Wrath then MoP makes sense as the next “stopping” point although now I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if they ran this whole thing right back to the forthcoming retail trilogy.

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Yeah, I figured the original stopping point would be WotLK since after that we lose the old world. The next stopping point would be MoP since that’s the last expansion before that horrible stat squish permanently screwed the pre-90 stat curve, and also the ability pruning.

After that, where does it end? Legion, before the second stat squish? Or BFA, before the third stat squish (with a level squish on top of it)? At that point “lol Shadowlands classic” is no longer a joke and is basically a reality.

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teehee “stopping point”

train stops where progression stops
all aboard for the war within
:steam_locomotive: choo choo

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Yeah and they took gems off pvp gear and a whole bunch of other stuff like major content in what amounted to half an expansion with WoD.

With an obvious trend of declining subs MoP was the last expansion that had that big hollywood movie budget for development and it shows. They wanted to churn out expansions for more than half the cost going forward. Now its just cinematic driven, overly voice acted lobby game crud.

As agreed MoP would be the common sense ending point for “Classic WoW” because WoD was a rip off travesty originally and unless they plan on putting in the rest of WoDs content they trashed to rush Legion there’s no reason at all to go there. Its totally fair to consider that a bad idea.

Legion got praised only because it wasn’t WoD even though it was just WoD 2.0: More Content. Everything from WoD on is Blizz’s parody of its own bad WoW clone. I can’t for the life of me consider any of that Classic not too mention it wasn’t that long ago. I barely consider Wrath to be a classic - it gets in on a technicality - Arthas. That’s where it righly ends. Its the money train now. Choo choo indeed.

I would not be surprised one bit given our “mainstream classic audience (bored retail players comprised largely of cata babies and streamer fan boys)”. People were screaming for boosts and a retail cash shop as soon as TBCC was announced and being a “vanilla WoW” aka Classic Era player made you a stupid jerk in their eyes.

I think most of us here will be having the last laugh if we haven’t already but I got nothing against Blizz milking and mocking this crowd at the same time.

I’m having difficulty holding some positivity.
I’d blame the mega conglomerate but it’s just me that wants to kick Neil Young meh outta the blue.

Get your daily BRD, my brother.

Blame is a two way street where this franchise is concerned and it balances out between both parties when you take it all into account.

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feels bad man

I just wanted the original Azeroth back.

Fine. This greybeard is heading for the amen corner where I belong.
aims a kick at mr young while passing into irrelevance

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WoD > Cata > Shadowlands

This is my opinion but I believe blizzard is gonna take the classic expansions all the way in till Legion to give people that didn’t play during these expansions a chance to play them and to experience everything that came with these expansions. Even though I played legion I never truly could experience anything due to my pc having terrible graphics and cpu the only thing I could do is open world content and world bosses and that is it. So it would be cool to play legion again to experience everything truly.

What would happen with classic accounts at that stage? (I don’t expect you to have the answer to this)

Once the classic expansion project ends would they be merged, deleted, or other?

The MoP remix means MoP classic is never happening. Cata classic will be so poorly received it won’t make financial sense to work on a MoP classic when they can mess around with era seasons.

This is a huge missed opportunity because the final patch of WoD is arguably the best class design/pvp and fun raid difficulty the game has ever had.

The other reason why WoD classic won’t happen (and therefore MoP Classic) is because garrisons generate obscene amounts of free gold that players could buy wow tokens with drastically reducing income from subscriptions (wow tokens don’t have to be bought by players to be sold for gold, that was always a lie) which in turn reduce 6 month subscription scams which in turn reduces the amount of cosmetic shop sales because people aren’t as comfortable spending money on the shop.

Don’t forget that the dps inflation in MoP goes from 20k dps at the beginning to 2mil+ dps at the end and was the entire reason the stat squishes were required.

Cataclysm is the end of World of Warcraft (classic) as we know it.

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Maybe they’ll just get free transfers to retail servers, since they’re effectively already playing retail at that point. That would make the most sense to me.

Hundo P bro, I’ve been hoping for MoP Classic since the first classic came out, i really do hope they just make a few individual servers for each prior classic expac release ex OGclassic should get servers, TBC should get servers, WotLK and cata and mop should get their permanent servers and they can continue doing whatever they wanna experiment on, i just hate how you dont get a choice and if they reset everthing then all your prior progress is wasted if thats the game you wanted to play. #MOPCLASSICLASTCLASSIC

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