funny that the streamers who told me it was peak wow arent even streaming anymore. they are streaming BF6 now. 
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Why do we care about streamers again or what theyâre doing?
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yet another victim of the grungler
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MOP has fallen. Billions must die
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Definitely not dead, ques pretty quick (under 1min) up until around 2500 mmr in 3v3
Having a blast, MOP/classic lovers should definitely give it a go
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Yeah MoP is going off, short queues & WPvP everywhere
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I canât mop right now, Iâm on my break.
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Yes itâs dead. Blizzard paid streamers to play classic to hype it up. The problem with this is that MoP sucks and no one is going to stick around for it.
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Looks so terrible, games just dont end 
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Agreed. Permanent cc, super slow. Things just not dying.
It really just seems like a relic of nostalgia and worse play that makes people remember it differently IMO.
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I havenât made it to 90 yet because I cba to level so slow on my Rdru that my friend wants me to heal on. Fire mage is fun so itâs not bad but still no flying and slow leveling is just the cherry on top of not being inspired after watching arenas from the streamers and realizing retail is amazing lol
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I quit BUT mop is great. Damage feels impactful, class design is great. Classes feel SO fun to play in a vacuum, but once you start qing into mages/rdruids itâs just horrible. Kinda like retail ig
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The simps do. Simps everywhere.
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Canât quote cause my phone is being dumb. I think people have proven again and again with classic that they donât know what they want.
I also think itâs probably a good indication that thereâs just two target demographics for pvp, people who want something close to what TBC through mop offers and people whoâve adapted and prefer the modern approach.
I hate mop as it ruined wow, but I think chalking it all up to nostalgia is reductive.
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A format still using the old outdated systemic issues who would have thought. No LFG. No SS. No cross faction qing
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I think mop originally had lfg the classic team is just allergic to a bunch of things.
Like we should have x-realm to see all the other server players and group based layering, but instead we just have layering and you canât play in other servers so the world is just dead as everyone is segregated for population fix methods for problems that donât even exist anymore.
They couldnât even figure out how to un-layer the vendors so they had to move them. Really pathetic tbh
They will say WoD was peak PvP soon.
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It is just the fact that s1 in mop didnt have base resil it still used the old system so its extremely damp even at full gear, every comp also has to have a warrior or hunter in it due to how strong those classes are and the amount of utility they have.
Its funny my friends were complaining about arms during the s1-s2 prepatch where they would kill things with huge mortal strikes and be unpeelable then turn around and said mop pvp was great when there are multiple specs doing exactly the same just at a slower rate on mop.
You also need to realise half the people saying mop was amazing are the people who peaked in that expansion and were complaining about cata being easier and less fun then mop to me.
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I guess my point is retail has all the QOL changes to keep participation as high as possible and still struggles. Going to classic which has a smaller population and being like âwe should limit these thingsâ seems like expansion suicide
Yeah I meant to add in I agree 1000%
I was just pointing out mop was the QoL expansion that added a lot of these features that oddly arenât present in classic MoP.
Original mop had layering phasing issues but since the game still had millions of players it was whatever
When your server pops are in the single digit thousands you gotta rethink layering
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