Mono Cat Druid

Unless you don’t bear weave, then it’s better than crit.

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Haste is considered the least beneficial stat for ferals! Bearweaving is deemed the optimal playstyle, surpassing mono cat even though it is the intended playstyle for feral DPS.

Bear minimum***

You really missed out on this?

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Crit is so sexy for ferals, i miss my 75% crit during end of icc. Makes rotation much easier and less punishing when most combo points are crit, and yes im aware this helps your argument of scaling

Lmao i do love this, u got me there.

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It’s considered less beneficial because you’re expected to spend energy regen time in bear form. If you’re not doing that you have to stack haste to reduce your downtime. If you’re refusing to do that AND refusing to bear weave, you have no argument because you won’t even attempt to play suboptimally correctly.

Unfortunately, stacking haste is not the play yet, it’s not optimal, agility is still better with mastery for mono cat , you only go for haste when crit is good enough by end of t13

Unless you’re not bear-weaving. You literally have to stack haste because otherwise your energy downtime over a long fight is too much. ESPECIALLY if your raid kills very slowly. Most sims are 5 minutes, his Beth was 6:21. He has to stack haste.

Stacking haste right now doesn’t make a difference, you still cant affect energy downtime if you fully stack haste, if anything you still lose damage, agility and mastery are kings.

You loss damage vs stacking agility or mastery for bleed and combo point managment.

Look at the parse/sim of a full agility vs haste mono cat.

Haste is a loss for t12, maybe be good for t13, same as in icc.

Check the druid discord for reference.

Well yeah, it’s agi>mastery>haste if you’re not bear-weaving. You don’t stop gemming agi, and probably still gem agi/crit, I’d just look for different substat pieces with haste and adjust reforges personally.

Well that’s not true. Personally I’d just learn to bear-weave because I want to be the best.

What is the discord saying about your position in full bis?

In druid discord no one really compares themselves to other classes, they only focus on optimizing what they can, but they mainly support off tanking and bearweaving because of its current optimization.

They suggest to bring those topics to here, the forums, if you start chatting about other classes you get banned.

Oh I’m not saying they do, I’m saying OP does… in every thread. Screaming at everyone, OP isn’t exactly helping your cause.

This post is about making mono cata better nothing else why do you all keep derailing the subject?

I’m aware . It’s unfortunate, i simply vocalize that mono cat needs some type of optimization, bear weaving shouldn’t be the intended way and unfortunately its encouraged currently.

A lot of people derail and that’s the nature of the forums but i try to stay in topic.

Feral should be incentivized to stay mono-cat for optimal damage, not bearweaving, this has been stated by blizzard , and thousands of ferals that quit agree with this, only a few ferals still play and well they gotta do what they gotta do, even if they don’t enjoy it.

And you are doing it the right way, OP tries to use 20th percentiles acting like people that are basically AFK are the average playerbase.

Most discord’s heavily rely on The Sims

To a certain point , definitely, in the start of cata was rough, only then i would disagree with you, first 1 month was a lot of theory crafting because sims were kind of broken for most classes.

I do believe sims are good, most fights have mechanics though and they mainly apply for the 99th percentile which again is mostly bearweaved. It is still good data for an even playing field.

I don’t necessarily care too much about the damage as long as they fix the bug , just mostly about the bear weaving issue.

Yeah, that is exactly what this post was made for, but people are constantly trying to derail the subject.

Blizz needs to fix Monocat at the root cause, which is energy regen. If energy regen is addressed, it removes the need to bearweave.

Adding the FFF Glyph takes away bearweaving but changes the rotation by adding in FF every 6 seconds, which doesn’t really fix the problem at the base.

Now, if Blizzard were to add a passive ability like Venomous Wounds that rogues have but make it work for bleeds vs. poisons, this would fix Feral energy regen and make bearweaving obsolete.

I do agree that blizzard should encourage mono cat- the only answer is not the one you provide, it’s an option , but it’s not a simple as a black - white argument, im sure they can come up with solutions we havent thought of.

I’m personally a huge fan of FFF and i believe it should be permanent for feral classic, will a lot of players disagree with me?, of course.