My friend who mains monk is still having a blast and does just fine with both BrM and MW. They don’t really play WW though because they don’t really like playing DPS specs.
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MW while still
Far from meta Priest/Shaman is in the best shape ever been in years. At least it’s playable unlike the past expansion garbage.
WW still suffer from the same issue, dps reliant on cd hard to organize around and ramp up combo strike are really not matching the damage profile required in modern M+.among the 3 probably the one who needs the most a heavy rework starting from concept
BRW is less button bloated than before which is good, but it’s still too squishy. It’s just a numerical issue, once they buff their mitigation will definitely be playable and fun
Monk is my fav class, I love the air dash they added along with readding the cut beta-legion ‘Miststep’ that lets you teleport to a friend.
I think brew could use a little buff though.
BrM is currently the worst performing and squishiest tank in the game right now. So that’s probably a big part of it.
Windwalker has a lot going for it, even if the numbers aren’t ‘there’.
Hit Combo/Mastery make it feel like all of its abilities matter in some significant way, unlike Outlaw.
Oh I agree. WW is great. But BrM is currently bottom tier. So swings and roundabouts I guess.
Monks lost their charm many moons ago when WW lost their tiger’s eye brew. I miss the sound of popping the ability and hearing the cork and liquid going down my throat. Was such a fun theme.
Monk is fun. I’ve been tanking on my Brewmaster. It’s good because the teleport is really good in the raid and dungeons this expansion, the mobility is very easy to play with.
What’s bad is Celestial Brew sucks now and they feel too reliant on healers. Celestial Brew feels really bad to press. Also BrM doesn’t take any talents on the bottom row, I find that really bizarre and a sign of bad design.
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Windwalker feels good, just others outshine it.
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Yes.
MW is okay but BrM and WW were left to rot.
Prot Pally and BrM were both bottom tier in 11.0 and Pally got buffed to the top while BrM got effectively nothing.
Of course they are both viable and people do fine with them, but other classes just do it better; so as a class that isnt a popular fantasy theme in the first place, they are rare when they also perform poorly.
Mistweaver forever.
I feel like MW has been in a really good place since the update in early DF to add chi cocoon and SG.
TWW overall improved on it even if I was reluctant to see EF go (I’m fine with it gone now).
It’s a fun spec.
Monks suck. All except MW rn.
I play one just because I enjoy the class.
MW is in a mostly good place, still Essence Font should be returned, but with Crackling Jade Lightning changes, it’s super fun and potent.
Super fun to play fist weaver right now so hoping that they can fix WW and Brew
I like to kick and I like to punch. Can’t do both of those things on any other class.
Blizzard’s darlings are paladin and mage. If these two classes have any slight issues, they will buff them immediately. Monks are afterthought class. Paladin is their cash cow since a lot of people enjoy playing holy heroes, so I don’t blame them giving special attention to paladin and making paladin the easiest class to play.
I find monk engaging and paladin boring, so play whatever you enjoy most but don’t expect Blizzard treat monk as paladin.
I have a monk tank I play on Sundays with my kids, but it’s been hard.
They aren’t as good as they were.
Been a Mistweaver monk main since Legion, only really play MW for group content while going WW for solo.
Out of the entire history of the class, I think Shadowlands was our darkest period. Thing I miss from BFA era is the windwalker talent ‘Good Karma’. It’s been feeling good in TWW, but sheiluns feels super weak now. I occasionally get compliments.
Also, Peer into peace is fantastic
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Problem is, every RPG where you give players the option to play a Paladin, it becomes the most played class/spec/specialization.
Baldurs Gate 3: Most played class is Paladin
Guild Wars 2: Guardian takes the top (Paladin analogy)
FFXIV: Most new players pick Gladiator/Paladin, but leave it when they find out its a tank only (still the most popular tank spec)
DND: Fighter takes first here, but that’s mostly metagaming. Paladin comes in #3 despite being a bit of a “weaker” class comparatively.
I was skeptical about peer into peace at first, but it’s now one of my favorite talents and I kind of hate the raid build doesn’t take it.
I still take it in my fistweaving build in mythic+ for parts where I need to cast.
Such a good quality of life talent.