Monk and Hunter "late revamps" went pretty well. Shaman might too

Shoving all utility onto the class tree, minimizing throughput nodes on the class tree, and minimizing 2-point talents has been a really successful redesign philosophy so far.

Those are great first steps. Shaman have some major pain points though that require new additions such as group utility / raid buff, defensives, and visual updates

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Doom post incoming:

I’ve had such a dysfunctional relationship with Blizzard over the years. The devs have always been extremely literal with their language when talking about things related to the game. The fact “Rework” isn’t used in the dev post gives me major pause.

When a rework happened for other classes, specs, and hero talents; the devs say rework.

This Shaman post says update, changes, and tuning. Simple number shuffling counts as all of those.

Additionally: “we aligned that feedback with our design goals, and got to work” should be reversed.

I hope so. I really don’t want to bench my Shammy. I’m not expecting much, given how close we are to pre-patch, but at least something to make the talent trees flow better and remove some of the clunkiness to the class.

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To be fair, they have to be extremely literal. Anything less and the trolls and Karens would be swarming like somebody kicked an ant hill.

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Was this the case for the recent hunter talent rework? I could be wrong but I remember they were kinda vague when they talked about “hunter changes coming next week”. I may have missed a post in between though.

The hunters weren’t expecting anything big either though, some doom posting, but a good portion of them were pleased when they saw the changes.

This could just be hopium from me though. I understand that your jaded about the state of Shaman and how the dev’s haven’t been attuned to the classes needs for some time now. Totally understandable and realistic.

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We’re all gonna make it, bro.

[Nod in a sense of unity, pride and solidarity with fist clenched across chest ]

(Until next week when we find out we’ve been changed to be a support class and personal assistants for Ret Paladins, Mages, and warlocks and we all go lie down in traffic).

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Tbh hunter also just got “changes to talent tree” as the major point and im very happy with what they did for surivial as someone who also doomed it so im being moee hesitant on the doomer for shaman.

I could be wrong tho just a few more days

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