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At the end of the Trial of Style (which happens inside MGT), the hosts will sometimes walk away and speak to Shadreen. Shadreen can also be seen in an area of the Void Elf starting hub.
Part of me likes these little ongoing side stories. Reminds me of the Infinite Dragon plot in TBC, Wrath and Cata (even if one part of it got cut cause of reasons).
Shadreen says: Have you gathered the information I require?
Nastasia Flairwatcher says: Yes, here are the results.
Shadreen says: âŚyou have done well. My master shall be pleased to see this.
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Trial_of_Style
I wonder who her master is.
I donât think there is a connection between Sathrovarr the Corrupter and Shadreen. Sathrovarr was involved in the Legions attempt to use the Sunwell to summon Kilâjaeden. While the incident you are using was done by the void. A completely different faction and one that was at odds with the Legion. Although they sometimes would aid the Legion in the short term to benefit themselves in the Long term. E.g. the Demon Soul during the WotA. Sathrovarr, like most Dreadlords was probably loyal to Daddy D, who was on team Zovaal. Not the Voids.
There have been 3 incidents involving the Sunwell. Kelâthuzads resurrection, Kilâjaedens summoning and the Voids attempt by using Alleria as an unwilling conduit. It is hard to say which one is the incident in question. Although my money would be on the most recent one. That being the Voids attempt to use it as a gateway. Which happened late Legion / early BFA. The murder in the Brawlers guild questline was during BFA.
WoWpedia thinks the âincidentâ is in reference to the little easter egg at the end of the Trial of Style though.
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I do not see why you take it so personally if people discuss your theory. You posted it. Is everyone supposed to either agree or ignore it?
I have a third option - we can discuss the lore involved in your theory and see if it shakes out. Why do you object to that?
I do not think it is hate. Denonaâs post didnât seem hateful or even dismissive. Just matter of fact.
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I thought his post was informative. I havenât participated in the trial of style, so it was interesting that the character you guys are discussing is there. I learned something from it.
As Denona said, maybe that is the incident at Queldanas.
Itâs funny, reading his post, I thought he was just adding helpful information. I didnât even see it as a rebuke or a challenge to your theory. Your reaction seemed overblown.
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Frustration mostly. Resentment towards this community.
Just disregard all of it. The mods wonât let me delete this thread.
I might be misremembering, but wasnât there something in the Orgrimmar horrific vision pointing towards the ethereal guy observing that too?
Yep, youâre correct. Thereâs no clue who this âweâ is.
Combining all these different pieces, the curious coin, the Brawlerâs guild investigation, and the Trial of Style, itâs particularly interesting how this seems to revolve around the players specifically. Because, normally, unless itâs a long-term hint thereâs some kind of player stand-in thatâs used in place of the player to be the focal point of events.
But ever since BFA, it seems like the void has been focusing on us specifically. And itâs not just this nameless faction of ethereals, but Xalâatath has made personal use of us. Nâzoth tried to corrupt us by having our eyes âbe openâ.
It feels like the void, almost universally, has begun to study the Adventurers of Azeroth. Learning what makes adventurers tick and seeing if, perhaps, in the future they canât find some way to ally with us by offering us sweet mog and gold. Or, yâknow, corrupt. But that didnât work previously.
This might be Blizzardâs way of sowing in the seeds of friendly void factions.
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Thereâs actually⌠A lot hinting at a blue flight ethereal connection if you wanna dig deep. Going back to Wrath in Dragonblight, you see ethereals working with the blues or for them. IIRC, even in BC in Netherstorm, when you go help the blue dragon lady observing the netherdrakes, itâs the ethereals who send you to her.
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Not exactly. Tyri approaches you after you used a hologram projector to inform that ethereal that you have the stuff he is after. Tyri explains what the situation is and you aid her in assassinating the ethereal that sent you.
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Gah, thatâs right. I remembered some connection, but forgot the full details. My bad on that.
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When was this stated? I canât find anything that shows Shadreen saying she was involved in anyway with Sathovarrâs corruption of Kalec back in the Sunwell raid.
You need some serious help if you think any form of criticism, even if it is constructive automatically means that someone hates you and everything you do.
I have said before, it is fine to speculate, but when one claims that something happens in the lore and then throws a tantrum when asked to cite it⌠that is where I draw the line. And you have done that every single time. No doubt you will do it again since I asked where and when does Shadreen say she was involved with Sathovarr back in TBC. It just comes off that you just want your own little echo chamber where everyone pats you on the back.
This right here proves everything i said is true. If you donât like me why interact with my threads? You jump to reply to everything I say, always trying to be the bigger guy. Clearly you have negative projection of me, and you have a vendetta. I donât have an echo chamber, I have no one licking my feet so you donât have to knock me down a few pegs because all you are doing is knocking me into the dirt when Iâm already in the dirt.
You should follow you own advice. Youâre a hot-head, you are easily riled up. You have no idea how to let little things go. And so transparently jealous, get a life Denona.
And I was proven right yet again. When asked to cite something you claim is in the lore, you resort to having a tantrum where you attempt to paint everyone you donât like as some form of vendetta against you. Everything you say is just projection. Why is it so hard to cite events that you CLAIM is in the lore? Not your speculation, but things you 100% claim are in the lore. So stop trying to paint that I am going after your âspeculationâ. I have repeatably stated that if you claim something is speculation, then I am willing to play along. However if there is something that one claims is 100% without a doubt in the lore and I canât find anything to support it. I will ask for a source. Because that is how a discussion should be done. Instead all I get from you is projections, accusations and whining. About how âwhaaa, no-one believes me. They are always second guessing. Why canât people just accept my headcanon as actual facts like I am trying to present it asâ.
This right here is projection. My first post had nothing that could come off as being condescending or being a jerk for no reason. Several people even support that. And yet you got riled up over it. Saying things like,
Sounds like someone has a little time letting things go.
You really are full of yourself arenât you?
There have been several posts of yours that I have not replied to. I havenât replied to your posts in the thread about High / Blood elves and their connections to the Light.
So why do you find it hard to simply provide a source for your claims if you are so confident that it is in the lore? THAT is my issue with you. I have asked you to cite your claims, claims that you state are 100% true and not speculation and all I get this posts like the above. And you wonder why you are starting to feel left out of the community on these forums?
You do not want a discussion. You want an echo chamber where everyone just agrees with you without questioning anything.
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Neither of those makes a clear connection between Shadreen and Sathrovarr the Corrupter. Something you stated right here
When did Shadreen make such a claim? THAT is what I am asking for a source on. And I asked it here,
Neither of those two sources even has Sathrovarr being mentioned or involved in them.
And yet Iâm the clown? Good God.
I checked both Shadreens and Sathrovarrs wowpedia pages and found no such speculation surrounding a relationship between the two.
Iâll link them both. Please point out where I missed this obvious important detail.
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Shadreen
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Sathrovarr_the_Corruptor
I even checked the two you linked in the OP. No mention of Sathrovarr in those either. Let alone a connection between him and Shadreen. So please. Provide which article on Wowpedia states that there might be a relationship between the two of them.
When did I state such a thing? Please provide a quote of me saying that.
hmmm. Seems I have yet again caught you on your own âBSâ there Ren. Since you are deleting all of your posts and asking for the mods to delete the thread. Look, I am curious about what Shadreen is up to. Like I said, I love it when Blizzard has these cross expansion side stories. The Timewalking raids is another. Where we have these unseen force making Illidans assaults against the Legion better (BT TW), freeing Yogg-saron ages before Choâgall does (Ulduar TW) or giving Ragnaros the means to pull an Argus. I.e. rezzing his forces the moment they die (Firelands TW). Clearly someone is against the Legion, as evidenced by BT TW and they are on team void. Since they aided Yogg and Ragnaros. With the infinite dragonflight rearing their heads once again, they are most likely the ones behind it. However it is important to supply these theories with evidence. Claiming that someone directly stated something with no evidence to support it is presenting information in bad faith. Even more so if you refuse to provide such evidence if it does indeed exist. And intentionally setting up a trap to try and get a âgotchaâ moment, knowing that you are making things up is low. Really low.
I want to have a discussion and a friendly debate. Yet every single time I ask for you to verify your sources because I cannot find anything that supports it (and trust me. I look hard for these things), you lash out and throw every buzzword at the wall. While accusing everyone of being against you. Like they are out to get you or have some form of vendetta against you. You even accused my first post of this thread being a personal attack against you when it was nothing of the sort. Was just pointing out that not everything is as black and white. Sometimes Blizzard leaves things vague on purpose. Like the whole 'incident at Quelâdanas" bit. Which incident are they referring to? Considering that they say they have been tracking Shadreen since then, it is most likely referring to the Trial of Style bit.
Shadreens appearance there is important to point out. Which is also why I provided a link to it.
Or it could be an attempt to try and lure us to their side by using our worst ambitions against us. Such as our loot lust and murder hobo tendencies.
Bungie has been doing something similar with The Witness and its attempts to try and lure us to its side of its conflict with The Traveler. In Shadowkeep it uses the Nightmares that spawned from the Lunar Pyramid as a way to test our resolve and strength of mind. Throwing all those who have wronged us in the past. From Crota who slaughtered thousands upon thousands of Guardians. Ghaul who succeeded in cutting Guardians off from the Light and even stealing it. While The Traveler did nothing. Fikrul the Fanatic and his involvement in the death of Cayde-6 etc etc. However we conquered those so The Witness gave us an invitation to the Black Garden. Where we will face off a group of Vex that have now succeeded in becoming paracasual (Paracasual basically means you are not bound by the laws of the universal i.e. physics). We succeed in this trial so it promises to make contact soon. After dealing with someone who cut the phone line on behalf of another and after we repaired it, The Witness once again tries to lure us to its side by beckoning us to Europa. While at the same time beckoning someone else to Europa. Eramis, the Kell of House Salvation. On Europa we find an empty pyramid, which teaches us and Eramis the power of Statis. A form of Darkness much like how Void, Arc and Solar are for the Light. You can infer that The Witness is hosting the final test. Whoever wins becomes its next disciple and the pyramid on Europa is theirs. However with the help from Eris, Drifter and the Exo Stranger, we master Statis without falling to temptation. Although doing so might have been a factor that led to The Traveler giving the light to another party. One that was an enemy, then a thief, only to become a supplicant. One who despite being a God of cunning, planning and deception, left the important part of their plan on a game of chance. They stacked the cards in their favour but it was still a gamble nonetheless.
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Mmm D2 has such a cool sci-fi story⌠I was so lure and hook by their lore and how THE VOID was part of what that world considers THE LIGHT, Solar and Arc not being to far behind with what they embody!
I still wonder what could possibly be the opposite of the Void within the powers of Darkness, now that Stasis and Strand have been raveled.
I do hope that DF does reveal more of the Aspect unique powers and responsibilities or better yet maybe new Aspects!
However I have to be honest, I will not hide that this comes from a completely personal and selfish desires for more Evoker powers or new Specs to come in the far future thought⌠haha 
We have had our share of words shot across the bow, and likely will in the future. I would still discuss lore or what ever else in the same why I discuss with others here.
There are people who have told me they do not want to chat and put me on ignore, and I try to be respectful and not post on their threads, if they stay true to their word and donât pick fights with me in kind. I can be rude, but I am not gonna harass people. If they want to walk away from our animosity, I will not harangue them.
I say all that, because I am not trying to dog pile. Just offer some words :
If I spent days working on a theory that I thought was air tight, and then after I posted it, people pointed out the flaws - I would be glad for it. Sure, I would feel disappointed for being wrong, and embarrassed for being publicly wrong - but I would be glad that people took the time to inform me, and discuss. I am not the type that sees a correction as an offense, though.
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