Why is choice a bad thing? You want the OG models and animations? My dude; use them, enjoy them, feel the power. Why can't I have them though?
#nochanges? Hell yeah! Keep every aspect of gameplay mechanics exactly how they were during Vanilla.
Don't tell me that me being able to see models and animations on my side of the client will ruin your experience though. You're a !@#$ing narcissist retard if it affects your experience when I'm seeing a different set of graphical feedback than you are.
Options are good!
So why I can't see vanilla models and animations in BFA anymore?
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10/30/2018 09:06 PMPosted by RetlanSo why I can't see vanilla models and animations in BFA anymore?
They dropped support of pre WoD models sometime during Legion. Irrelevant.
You know they tried this in warlords. Know what happened? Old models were buggy and distorted and looked bad because they used the new model animations.
So if that's what you want to deal with the old should be baseline and the new should have to deal with the issues.
Oh and it would also delay classic longer to add it in. That's an issue too.
So if that's what you want to deal with the old should be baseline and the new should have to deal with the issues.
Oh and it would also delay classic longer to add it in. That's an issue too.
10/30/2018 09:07 PMPosted by Uwindaji10/30/2018 09:06 PMPosted by RetlanSo why I can't see vanilla models and animations in BFA anymore?
They dropped support of pre WoD models sometime during Legion. Irrelevant.
So Vanilla never supported new models thus your post is also "Irrelevant".
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10/30/2018 09:07 PMPosted by Uwindaji10/30/2018 09:06 PMPosted by RetlanSo why I can't see vanilla models and animations in BFA anymore?
They dropped support of pre WoD models sometime during Legion. Irrelevant.
It's very relevant. You don't understand. You should adapt to the 2004 game, not the other way around. There is nothing wrong with vanilla models and animations.
A toggle? Maybe, as long as it does NOT impact the old models and animations, which are top priority.
10/30/2018 09:09 PMPosted by MatcauthonYou know they tried this in warlords. Know what happened? Old models were buggy and distorted and looked bad because they used the new model animations.
So if that's what you want to deal with the old should be baseline and the new should have to deal with the issues.
Oh and it would also delay classic longer to add it in. That's an issue too.
And this is exactly what I was getting to. If you enjoy buggy animations and models, that's what you will take.
10/30/2018 09:07 PMPosted by Uwindaji10/30/2018 09:06 PMPosted by RetlanSo why I can't see vanilla models and animations in BFA anymore?
They dropped support of pre WoD models sometime during Legion. Irrelevant.
So it's irrelevant to have them in modern but not irrelevant to have them in classic. Got it.
10/30/2018 09:07 PMPosted by Uwindaji10/30/2018 09:06 PMPosted by RetlanSo why I can't see vanilla models and animations in BFA anymore?
They dropped support of pre WoD models sometime during Legion. Irrelevant.
Irrelevant? Uhh no? I could spend all night arguing with you about how wrong you are, but I have to work in the morning so I'll give you one of the best examples there is.
https://i.imgur.com/gy8X7Al.jpg
Look at the faces. Look at the left, then look at the right, then look at the left again. The original one is a very brollic, scruffy looking minotaur. The "new" model looks like some goofy Pixar creation ready to star in a new Shrek spinoff.
Being forced to look at the new models is an absolute atrocity.
You don't get it, and I don't expect you ever will. You're 1 level away from 120, go ahead and finish your character off. BFA just came out, and will likely last as long as Legion; you have two years worth of world quests and grinding for +1 ilvl ahead of you.
Playing on private servers with old models but wayyy more pixels than 2004 monitor and it looks fabulous. There SHOULD BE NO OPTION
This is Classic wow trying to emulate VANILLA. Not classic wow... but lets see how far we can push changes to bring people over
This is Classic wow trying to emulate VANILLA. Not classic wow... but lets see how far we can push changes to bring people over
ayyy someone who speaks the truth on here. I think it could very well happen, but common sense says they're going to get the game working with the original stuff first before they add other options. Basically classic has to be made in safemode first. Too bad people have to be ***holes and use file modification to cheat so Blizzard has to take action against file modification, otherwise we could just download a custom patch.
Why is choice a bad thing? You want the OG models and animations? My dude; use them, enjoy them, feel the power. Why can't I have them though?
#nochanges? Hell yeah! Keep every aspect of gameplay mechanics exactly how they were during Vanilla.
Don't tell me that me being able to see models and animations on my side of the client will ruin your experience though. You're a !@#$ing narcissist retard if it affects your experience when I'm seeing a different set of graphical feedback than you a
Options are good!
10/30/2018 09:04 PMPosted by UwindajiWhy is choice a bad thing? You want the OG models and animations? My dude; use them, enjoy them, feel the power. Why can't I have them though?
#nochanges? Hell yeah! Keep every aspect of gameplay mechanics exactly how they were during Vanilla.
Don't tell me that me being able to see models and animations on my side of the client will ruin your experience though. You're a !@#$ing narcissist retard if it affects your experience when I'm seeing a different set of graphical feedback than you are.
Options are good!
no.
ps. no
10/30/2018 09:09 PMPosted by MatcauthonOld models were buggy and distorted and looked bad because they used the new model animations.
Fair enough, so have Blizzard fix them. It's not like we're not gonna be paying for classic in some form that'd allow them to allocate for the resources.
10/30/2018 09:09 PMPosted by MatcauthonSo if that's what you want to deal with the old should be baseline and the new should have to deal with the issues.
Why do people keep thinking request for updated graphics = we want them default <.<
10/30/2018 09:09 PMPosted by MatcauthonOh and it would also delay classic longer to add it in. That's an issue too.
Why...why do people keep repeating arguments nobody has made. I have yet to see a single person say the above nor ask they be added before classic releases. People are just asking for them to be added, period, nothing more. Maybe someone has and I'd be right there to say that'd be a bad idea, it needs to be released first.
10/30/2018 09:09 PMPosted by Raggnnar<span class="truncated">...</span>
They dropped support of pre WoD models sometime during Legion. Irrelevant.
So Vanilla never supported new models thus your post is also "Irrelevant".
Nor was auto loot, higher res textures, better lighting, animated foliage, colorblind, but guess what...
10/30/2018 09:15 PMPosted by HomonculusPlaying on private servers with old models but wayyy more pixels than 2004 monitor and it looks fabulous. There SHOULD BE NO OPTION
This is Classic wow trying to emulate VANILLA. Not classic wow... but lets see how far we can push changes to bring people over
Alright, if we're going by that logic. I'm on a diet, therefor you're not allowed to have any cookies.
Nor was auto loot, higher res graphics, better lighting, animated foliage, colorblind, but guess what...
My point was missed I take it?
Basically OP called the exact thing that they were asking for just flipped around irrelevant. Thus by their own logic their post was also irrelevant.
I don't want my Night Elf to be perceived under the hideous new model within my server community.
It strips down on the RPG aspect of the game.
The only reason they added toggles on live, is because people got attached to their characters for years and they didn't want to piss a huge chunk of the playerbase off when they added the new models.
Eventually they gave up on the idea, cuz people got used to the new models over time.
You'll be rolling fresh characters on Classic.
New models have no place in Classic.
It strips down on the RPG aspect of the game.
The only reason they added toggles on live, is because people got attached to their characters for years and they didn't want to piss a huge chunk of the playerbase off when they added the new models.
Eventually they gave up on the idea, cuz people got used to the new models over time.
You'll be rolling fresh characters on Classic.
New models have no place in Classic.
10/30/2018 09:09 PMPosted by MatcauthonOld models were buggy and distorted and looked bad because they used the new model animations.
Fair enough, so have Blizzard fix them. It's not like we're not gonna be paying for classic in some form that'd allow them to allocate for the resources.10/30/2018 09:09 PMPosted by MatcauthonSo if that's what you want to deal with the old should be baseline and the new should have to deal with the issues.
Why do people keep thinking request for updated graphics = we want them default <.<10/30/2018 09:09 PMPosted by MatcauthonOh and it would also delay classic longer to add it in. That's an issue too.
Why...why do people keep repeating arguments nobody has made. I have yet to see a single person say the above nor ask they be added before classic releases. People are just asking for them to be added, period, nothing more. Maybe someone has and I'd be right there to say that'd be a bad idea, it needs to be released first....
So Vanilla never supported new models thus your post is also "Irrelevant".
Nor was auto loot, higher res textures, better lighting, animated foliage, colorblind, but guess what...10/30/2018 09:15 PMPosted by HomonculusPlaying on private servers with old models but wayyy more pixels than 2004 monitor and it looks fabulous. There SHOULD BE NO OPTION
This is Classic wow trying to emulate VANILLA. Not classic wow... but lets see how far we can push changes to bring people over
Alright, if we're going by that logic. I'm on a diet, therefor you're not allowed to have any cookies.
Blizzards already removed the option and made it plain they aren't going back to a toggle.
Be cause there are people who do want them as the default. Just like when people make the claim that "just because we ask to make hybrids more competitive does not mean we want them to do competitive dps with pures, no one's asking that" yet in fact there are some who do want that.
Why do I assume that this stuff is being asked to be added before release? Because the games not out yet and they are already asking for it
Actually vanilla did have auto loot. Just not as a default option and it wasn't the aoe looting of today. You had to shift click.
10/30/2018 09:07 PMPosted by Uwindaji10/30/2018 09:06 PMPosted by RetlanSo why I can't see vanilla models and animations in BFA anymore?
They dropped support of pre WoD models sometime during Legion. Irrelevant.
They didn't have support for new models in 2004, you just owned yourself.
For all intensive purposes, it's 2004.
10/30/2018 10:14 PMPosted by RaggnnarNor was auto loot, higher res graphics, better lighting, animated foliage, colorblind, but guess what...
My point was missed I take it?
Basically OP called the exact thing that they were asking for just flipped around irrelevant. Thus by their own logic their post was also irrelevant.
But there's a hefty quantitative difference.
Classic is a recreation of the old game based upon modern versions of it. It's far easier to take a newer and more modern model and strap it into an old rig and make it look decent, than it is to take an older model and make it fit into a new system and make it look decent.
Further, considering Current WoW will face new developments that might require further updating models/animations/etc, keeping both the old and new models would double the work needed whenever these changes were made.
Adding new models to an old game that shouldn't be getting such changes only requires the one-time work investment. (In theory at least.)
It's the difference between teaching an Old Dog constantly new tricks, or teaching a New Dog the same tricks the Old one knows.
(Besides all that, it'd be nice if the Vanilla model toggle was still supported, and I would very much like the new models to be toggleable in Classic. Basically my only additional desire at this point.)
No new models. I don’t know why this needs to be repeated to you fools. It’s making me very angry and I’m at my wit’s end with a good number of you.
10/30/2018 10:14 PMPosted by RaggnnarMy point was missed I take it?
Basically OP called the exact thing that they were asking for just flipped around irrelevant. Thus by their own logic their post was also irrelevant.
But how is he wrong? Classic and modern WoW are different games. Are you suggesting that making a request for features from game A be added to game B is the same as requesting changes be made to game A despite the fact that this sub forum has no influence on the changes to game A? If you want changes to game A that's fine, but it doesn't make sense to ask for changes in game A in a discussion forum for game B.
Fully in favour of a toggle. It does not affect players who don't want to use it, so should not even be a sticking point. The original models/armour sets were terrible even in 2005, so all the more power to people who want to slog through 60 levels and beyond looking at them.