I’ve reached Elite on my main hunter in both War Within BGB seasons, startnig with an MMR around 2800. I didn’t start losing rating from losses until I hit 2.3k. But on my alts, it’s a completely different story. My MMR started at around 1600, and even though I have a similar 50/50 win-loss record as I did on my main, I’m completely hardstuck.
Wins often give me 0 to 16 points, while losses hit me with -15 to -25. I can go on a positive run—win two games, lose one—and still see no rating gain after hours of play. That happened tonight: I played for four hours, ended with a 60% win rate, and still lost points, finishing at 1632 on the alt I was grinding.
I’m just as strong on my alts as I am on my main. I’ve been playing since TBC, and I consistently top or come near the top in damage while playing objectives properly. This isn’t a skill issue—it’s an MMR issue. And right now, it’s completely killed any desire I have to keep playing BGBs or any ranked modes at all.
All I wanted was to get the Elite transmog sets at 1800 on my alts. I don’t enjoy Arena or Solo Shuffle, and I don’t want to feel forced into those modes just to earn rewards. BGB is what I enjoy—but with how the system works right now, it’s just not fun anymore. I don’t recall this being an issue last season.
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Are you sure you didn’t just ride the mmr boost of season 1 into a soft mmr reset for season 2 on top of playing a ridiculously broken spec for bgs? Then find yourself unable to climb without the padding of season 1 mmr and the support of being overturned.
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I mean hunter was insane last season and i went 1800 on all my alts with ease.
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1800 last season is like 1400 or lower normally. Potentially a lot lower depending on how late it was
by “normally” you mean this season? So they changed the MMR system so that 1400 now was 1800 last season? So my 2.4k this season is the same as 2.8k last season? I havent kept up with any system changes do you have a link or anything to suggest this is accurate?
“Normally” as in kept in line with the other brackets and not hyper inflated. Similar to how mmr was dropped a lot from DF S1 of shuffle to future seasons
Ahh i didnt know that. Well it was significantly harder to get 2.4k with my mmr so much higher than it was last season starting from a 1600 mmr. Just so weird how im getting 0 points on wins with an alt that 50/50 at 1600 mr. I have to win 3 out of 4 games just to climb (ever so slowly) to 1800. By my estimation based on the long queue times and games needed to win it will take me about 62 (more) games and ive done about 25.
Blitz takes a long time to form games, the games also last a really long time. It should take me 4 games of 3 wins just to walk away with 10 points positive between 1450-1650.
I will say though i mained ele sham for awhile and hes been my alts this season, I absolteuly love popping ascendance with heroism (pvp talented) and 1 shotting people with it and elemental blast into instant lava burst. It reminds me on of trueshot rapid fire burst but with way more aoe along with it! Wish this mmr system at teh very least didnt take a billion hours of bgs to get to 1800 on my lower mmr toons.
Yeah cr gains are way too slow imo. It’s why I barely touched it last season. Getting 16cr for the time it would take me to get 60+ in any other mode is crazy.
Glad you like ele! They’ve made good changes to ascendance
I just create another toon if it one gets bad RNG so far it seems to be working.
Are you in placement games? Your main MMR carries over but if you are playing fresh you have to go through 20 matches of playing with people who don’t even know what team they are on.
My dps spec is 2300c my fresh healing is still in placement bouncing all over 1200-1800 MMR. Once you hit 21 games it sky rockets up if you win.
Ya, getting 0 points at 1400 CR is absolteuly insane, thats what been happening to me. Its that or like 6-12 points, but if i lose its in the 20’s…
I’ve noticed this too. Got 2.4 on boomy and have vibed around 2.5-2.8mmr last season and this one. Wins gave me like 20-45 mmr max while losses usually gave me around 60.
Also noticing it’s tossing me into lower mmr lobbies even while on said alts. Queuing at 1700 mmr on a fresh 80 and it’s sticking me with 1200’s
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I had hoped your 21 games theory worked, however i tried it the last couple nights and can confirm it does not work. My shaman alt is 55% win rate with 24 games played, when i lose i lose around -16 and when i win i get 0 sometimes and around 15 other times. That means at 1450 CR and 1480 MMR I have to win 3 out of every 4 games just to climb by about 10 or so points.
Even with this noted, 4 BGB games at a 75% win rate at 1450 just to get 10 points total gain from all 4… Something is very wrong, I never ever have had this issue and ive played since TBC, last season was very very different.
Its a theory but i beleive something is wrong with the MMR system. Even on my main it was just too easy. going to 2300 and never onec losing any points from a loss, being 50% win rate and getting elite… Just way too easy. Now getting hard stuck on my fresh alts around 1400-1600 is insane…
I was just going for 1800 for the tmog and i wont do arena because i dont enjoy it so since i cannot do my usualy 1800 on all my alts for elite tmog set ill have to cancel my sub and wait for next season. What a shame, how no one on the wow dev team see this is crazy! This issue has lost BGB so many players, no wonder its long queue times…
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