MMR need to go away

There is a better alternative, fix smurfing and leap frogging.

Everybody slides up or down to where they deserve to be.

High exp in low rating is just bad at spec, queuing with a friend, no gear, trying a build, not trying/caring, etc.

I do. There are far more situations than a new account.

We go through a whole season of people bringing up alts.

MMR rolls into the next season.

There aren’t really hard resets though… And there isn’t in other games either. But you need to do soft resets in every season or not CR would go past the moon. Like again… Every. Single. Game. Does. This.

Yeah alts are a problem but it’s sooooo freaking minor BECAUSE of MMR. Because they will shoot out of the newbs bracket instantly. That’s the whole point of MMR.

My first game on my alt prot warrs this seas was like 2300

I can play like 5 2s wins in a row before sitting 8 minute queues at 2400 mmr

If anything the anti-smurf tech is too strong and still the players at initial MMR are distressed

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That’s probably the worst offender for wow pvp. Don’t think that will ever change though

What if we made it so alts couldn’t be fully bis in literally one day of reaching max level (which takes 1-2 hours with boosting or remix)

Maybe make gear rating locked

With an honor requirement to upgrade

Maybe require some rep or pve stuffies to be fully bis

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To a degree

Unless there’s million alts and a never ending waterfall of fresh starts.

Who cares if cr goes to the moon? Basing rewards at numbers was a mistake from the beginning.

Not chess.

Was my first game on prot 2300 high enough or should it have been 2600 :dracthyr_crylaugh:

Literally just excuses over fair games at your correct mmr

Yeah it’s annoying… But again MMR makes it such an insignificant problem because people shoot to where they’re supposed to be very quickly. Like rocket League punishes content creators if they throw games because it messes with their MMR system that protects low level players.

That’s the point of MMR. Holy hell people do not understand how this stuff works. It’s crazy.

Then what’s the point of cr!!! :roll_eyes::roll_eyes::rofl::rofl: Like legit… Every game has this system because CR would be meaningless then.

Lol what dude… Like I actually cannot take you seriously right now. Like virtual chess probably does have MMR. In real life there is no alts so it’s completely irrelevant to how any video game ever works…

Terrible example. Anyways… You clearly don’t understand how MMR works or its purpose. It protects newbs believe it or not and it is working mostly as intended. Is it perfect? Absolutely not… But there’s a reason every single game uses it.

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I am advocating for no resets. So if 2300 was lower than your previous rating than it was too low.

I understand up there you have issues with q times. That is certainly a problem. Make an alt and play the game. :joy:

Don’t really like that either but if it’s in the game I’m fine with you doing it.

That does happen. They just remove the seasonal inflation and soft reset

This is how the first month of the first season starts and it’s a bloodbath when they throw away matchmaking data.

Honestly i don’t think you understand the numbers.

It means the same thing whether the community is 0-3000 or 0-6000.

You made the claim every game does this. I offered a game that doesn’t. They don’t reset in chess. Mmr is permanent.

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That’s exactly my point. I don’t want them to reset. I am advocating for them to never throw away match making data.

Does the game version of seasons? Likely not… I’d be willing to be it still has MMR though… Real life is not a game and does not apply in anyway shape or form :roll_eyes:

So no you have not provided me an example.

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Chess is not real life. It’s a game. If you desperately need it to be virtual use chess dot com as your example.

Yes it is a different game. So are all the other games in every. Single. Other. Game.

It’s a perfectly fine example, even if you don’t like it, and to be honest chess is the gold standard in mmr implementation. MMR was invented for chess.