So in this topic I would like to offer some solutions to the problems that Hunters face in all aspects of the game such as BGs and Arenas, somewhat less effected in PvE.
So, for an MM hunter to do well in BGs and especially in Arenas, we need Aimed Shot instant. Why instant? As soon as your opponent finds out you are an MM, they’ll start hiding behind objects. You start casting your Aimed shot and the opponent can easily avoid that by hiding. Opponent comes out again, you cast aimed shot and they start hiding again, once they see you cast. So just by doing that they can avoid most of the damage. That’s with healers. Another problems is with melee classes when you need to keep moving, otherwise you get hit. So if you keep moving, you can’t use Aimed Shot. If you’re not moving, then you can cast it, but you get so much damage for doing that. Plus when you do stand and cast it, they can just go through you and all that time casting and standing would be a waste on top of suffering all that damage. So here’s a list of what I think we need to be able to compete:
Aimed Shot has to be instant.
Give us 2 normal Dots, one baseline and one gained from talents. Make them last for 20sec each.
Make Rapid Fire channel be 1.5-2sec. Make it so we can get more shots through gaining more mastery or haste.
Make Arcane shot hit harder.
Bring back the old Explosive Shot from WOTLK.
Natural Mending. Change it to reduce the cd down to 1min or so that would give a healing buff for 12sec.
Trailblazer. Remove the part “Anytime you have not attacked for 3sec”
Remove Double Tap from GCD.
Change Locked & Load to give us a chance to fire another Aimed Shot instantly at 50% damage.
Change Lethal shots chance to reduce CD of Rapid Fire to 30% and add 2 more shots through its channel.
The most important things are instant Aimed Shots and 2 Dots. Do you guys have any suggestions? What do you guys think of instant Aimed Shot?
I disagree. MM has been broken for over a decade you wanted to say. Once we got focus and Aimed shot castable, that’s when everything went down, instead of improving on what there was. We need Aimed to be instant and good dots, otherwise we can’t compete in Arenas…
This is very ranged survival like. Also it sounds like you want lock and load to be about the same as double tap?.
Anyway aimed shot doesn’t need to be instant. We don’t need dots, we don’t need explosive shot. We need more survivability and the limited cc we need to chain together being on the same dr.
These changes are mostly for PvP. Yes, locked and Load could be removed entirely, since AS would be instant. WE DO NEED AS INSTANT. In PvE you don’t need it instant. But even in PvE, I can find many instances where you don’t do a steady damage due to RF being channeled and AS being casted. We do need dots, both in PvP and PvE. Do you not see the huge gaps in damage? It is not balanced, our dots were just removed and nothing added in return for them. You’re mentioning more survivability. INTANT AS would make survivability a non issue. Having Dots would make us be able to do damage while we are using other survival tools.
I don’t think it’s mandatory for it to be instant. From a pve perspective the class is fairly mobile. From pvp side of things maybe we should look at why destro can be successful with the long chaos bolt cast time.
Aimed Shot doesn’t even need to be castable while moving, it just needs a damage payoff commensurate with the difficulty in landing one. I’d be fine with Aimed while moving as a PvP talent though, or as a baseline option where you can always cast while moving albeit at reduced damage.
I’d rather have a 2.5s hardcast that hits like a truck than a 2.5s cast while moving that hits like a wet noodle, and you can rest assured that if cast-while-moving Aimed Shot hits live servers with Master Marksman, Careful Aim, and Double Tap as they exist on beta right now, we will be nerfed to the ground within the week.
The amount of CC destro has gives them many windows to cast chaos bolt. 3x fear, coil, shadowfury, infernal. When they run out of CC they’re a lot more durable and can just cast in the face of melee. Their casts actually do damage as well, which is a big help.
I don’t think hunters should be designed as turrets though. Since the beginning they were the kiting class.
Well well, it looks like we’ve got some of the things suggested in this topic. We’ve got 18sec serpent sting, weve got some bleed effect, which is effectively a dot. We also got prok chance increased for lethal shot from 20% to 30%. So, some of what I suggested was actually not too much to ask for. Maybe some day we will get the real deal and make Aimed shot instant again. Make AS great again! Lol.
I heard he also wants aimed shot to be instant and deal 75% of a players health. You know…cuz PvP.
But yeah, what you’re asking for is not even remotely MM. It needs work but you’re asking for it to be completely changed to RSV with rapid fire and an instant aimed shot.
