So I’ve been wondering for a while why my mana always feels so depleted at the end of “some” boss fights lately and a question came to mind. Why is it that Mistweavers are the only healer without a Mana CD in this expansion? This question has really baffled me. And I don’t just mean a raid cd, but also some kind of spell or talent to return mana too. I know we have Spirit of the Crane talent but that’s a measly .65 % of mana. I’ve been reading some forums from mmo-champion and it seems there’s also threads there complain about MW mana issues so at least I’m not the only one to wonder. All this aside I have zero issues topping the healing meter mind you and I find MW very fun to play in raid and dungeons. But at the end of a fight I’ll notice all the other healers in my grp will finish with 50% or more mana and with no pots used unlike myself. I know I’m not the best MW atm, but I was just curious if anyone else noticed this lack of a mana cd issue as well.
Mistweavers are just lacking in multiple departments when it comes to healing, in all forms of content. In my opinion, their Shadowlands iteration is the worst version of MW there has ever been. They definitely have mana problems in there too. Mana Tea kinda helps, even if it is not stronger than other healers’ CDs. Managing it efficiently is very important in sustaining mana.
If you play ATotM you will never have mana problems.
This is probably the best MW has felt since pre 7.0 rework. BFA was a disaster because all you did was Upwell and spam vivify+RJW. Not very fun. Fistweaving in BFA was really meh. All you did was RSK on CD. ATotM gives us the better fistweaving experience. Also SOTC is starting to work good for some fights. I wouldn’t discount that talent. Some fights my SOTC is giving back well over 20k mana.
This might not be WoD/MoP greatness but it’s still improvement from BFA. At least we get to show up on the healing meter for raiding. Our mythic+ balance in BFA was still overshadowed by Rdruid. Not much has changed in regards to mythic+. The only thing good in BFA was maut trinket + AZ neck because it helped coverup our mana problems.
I can second this. For raids, ATotM is good for healing and you’ll have no mana problems. Also, using your focus tea on vivify makes mana much better.
I’m interested in giving the RM / fistweaving build a try. Do you know of any good guides or suggestions for a monk that is just learning the ropes of the build?
I looked at the Peak of Serenity section on RM, but I’d also love to see it in action (maybe something on YouTube). 
I played it last night and I found if I precast EF at 6 seconds before the pull and put RM on the tanks then did RSK>TPx3>BoK. When my ATotM fell off I could RM>EF>RM. Then you just repeat.
I don’t know of any good guides for fistweaving. You should look up logs of monks who fistweave. Put the logs into WoWAnalyzer and look over the timeline.
Fistweaving is easy because it’s essentially spam essence font while weaving in RJW & Renewing Mist. If your not doing that you should be dps’ing. Look for the juicy Yu’lon moments as well. You don’t need to spam Enveloping Mist 11x to make Yu’lon worth. Probably 3 or 4 Enveloping Mists will be enough. If you want you can coordinate with a druid for innervate during Yu’lon. Use Revival when you need. Healing rotations is really only a thing on some mythic raid fights.
SOTC or Mana Tea is fine. I tend to switch between the two based on fight and length of the fight.
You’ll begin to see how the build works as you keep playing. Its really not hard to do and you should have great mana.
Thank you so much for this prompt and helpful response.
I’ll probably test this out either with some patient guildies or in heroic dungeons until I get a feel for the playstyle.
One last question: Is the EF, RJW, RM (mixed in with DPS) strat the same in 5-mans as it is in raids? I just wanted to make sure since I probably will mostly be doing M+, probably up to M+10 in the foreseeable future if I can.
M+ healing is totally unique to your group. There isn’t a template healing method for M+. I find M+ healing to be based off the tank. If you get a good tank you can fistweave really well. Bad tanks require you to spam heal them.
That being said, Tear of Morning is hands down the best for mythic+ healing in high keys. It works much better. I think you could totally make ATotM work in keys. If Blizzard ever made ATotM smart heal it would help a lot.
I suggest using Chi-Ji for mythic+. RJW isn’t used in m+ much.
RM is always best for m+.
EF can be kind of hard on mana in mythic+ because you might need to focus healing on the tank.
If you are kyrian, using chi ji in raid is also a viable option. It allows you to be a bit more free with ENVM espiecally if you build up stacks of totm before you summon him.
Chi-ji can be dungeon/group comp/weekly affix dependable.
Popping Chi in Sanguine Depths on Executor Tarvol only to get hit with circle and having to run out doesn’t feel the best. Or running melee stacked group during quaking. Just my 5c on that.
I would agree, however it’s super mana neutral atm, I use chi ji during prideful usually and it’s just so nice. MW mana In keys is tough to manage, so using a tool like that is very nice.
meanwhile, in pvp. you are constantly spam healing and you go oom before most people even hit 80% mana.