Im trying to learn mistweaver, and just want to check to see if ive got the basics down.
So you heal by using vivify.
If you want to just vivify once then dont use soothing mist.
If someone needs quickly healing back up, use soothing mist, enveloping mist, and then vivify.
Cast renewing mist whenever its available.
Vivify also heals everyone with renewing mists for a kinda tiny amount.
Use essence font as an on the move group heal. (It doesnt seem to heal for a lot so doesnt seem like a good emergency group heal, and if the group is at high enough health youre better off putting up your hots?)
Just as a basic surface level thing before i try learning more in depth.
Ive been learning it by using the proving grounds and ive certainly improved a lot from my first ever attempt. The npcs actually live now XD
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Essence font is used in two ways depending on your play style;
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If your fistweaving it is mostly ignored (as far as I know) but can be used to activate Ancient Teachings.
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In the CF build it’s used more for it’s double mastery bonus. Basically makes your heals hit twice and bigger.
In my homebrew CF build I use EF before SG or Revival. Sometimes I’ll use it when I have the group blanketed in Renewing Mists before a vivify or two. I play a high mastery build so Gusts of Mists is usually my 3rd or 4th highest healing.
But yeah, you’ve got the basic understanding 
Oh and don’t be afraid to use your celestial. With the recent change you want to try and time it for just before aoe damage comes in.
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Thanks for the tips!
I went to go try learning further, but since im in the EU i dont get the new patch until tomorrow.
So im worried that if i learn something beyond the basics tonight, tomorrow things will have changed XD
But i think im in a good place to start learning the other buttons now! 
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Have played with it for a dungeon in the new patch, not much has seemed to change unless you’re min-maxxing and micromanaging your t4 set bonus.
Getting pulled into a 21 last night as a 437 was rough, a guy rage quit but it gave good exp.
I play fist weaver and it’s pretty easy.
Renewing most on CD for random people, Faeline, DPS rotation. For light to moderate damage.
Thunder Tea for Enveloping Mist on people taking big damage or with a DoT.
Chi-Ji on CD or save for AoE fights
I like to use Essence Font if I get unlucky FL reset Procs just to keep meleeing.
I’m not a great MW but it seems to work so far
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Unless I’m mistaken, the only changes happening tomorrow are the new mana tea and it’s talents.
So play style wise it won’t change much. Just have to find the best times to use it.
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During big aoe damage, use Sheilun Gift (at least 5 stack). 10 stack sure top off all 5 members; When SG < 5 stacks, if fw build, chi-ji, sck. if cf build, EF, yulon, EM, VIVIFY.
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The CF build is meant to take advantage of the Mistweaver 10.1 Class Set 4pc bonuses. The aim is to maintain as many Renewing Mists as possible in order to procure our set bonuses. Then we use Invoke Yu’lon, to ramp up more Renewing Mists via Rapid Diffusion culminating in a Soothing Mist into Vivify spam. Once our ramp is set up, we can proc our 4 set using Mana Tea or Thunder Focus Tea and freely spam-empowered Vivifies until our ramp dies down.
It’s mostly used in raids but can be good in keys too. I prefer my homebrew CF build instead.
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Definitely not ignored. You use it when teachings drops and stomp is down or if you are moving. You have to go to single target FW rotation until stomp is back up if this happens (no sck heals). Also note that the EF ticks from stomp stack with the normal EF ticks so it is good to use if you need to pump.
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Care with how you word that because you will still prefer to cast Spinning Crane Kick on your Faeline while moving if there are mobs
But yea if for whatever reason you have no Faeline and need some AoE healing while moving (between trash packs is great example)
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I don’t fistweave so thank you for clarifying that! I don’t want to give misinformation and should have refrained from answering that part.
Is Chiji better for keys then? Because I’ve been using Yulon for fistweaving.
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It depends.
Chi-Ji is in a sense because you’re still doing damage while its pumping heals.
That said it’s more risky, because it means you must be in melee with good uptime during Chi-Ji or it loses a lot of value. My experience and not being the greatest player, I’ve run into a lot of times I want big healing but getting melee uptime during is difficult, especially in a melee heavy comp depending on the pack and boss.
Yulon blanketing from range can be a lot safer and does a ton of healing as well.
I’m glad though there are very different playstyle options with the talents.
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I use Yu’lon in keys. Fistweaving isn’t my style so I can’t say how the celestials differ per build.
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Same, I just use Yu’Lon.
As long as you are using one of them every min to maximize the chi cocoons, spreading the breath/healing%+ on everyone while it’s up, you are good with either.
Don’t sit on celestials too, even if you dont need the healing if you picked up Invoker’s Delight you can use even Yu’Lon offensively every minute due to the haste it provides, combined with the class trinket and/or secret infusion, and/or sheilun’s gift’s stat buffs you can really do some high Spinning Crane Kick damage bursts. The better your group is the more damage you can do this way if they dont take a ton of damage. This is nice in a pug environment when you don’t entirely know the type of group you are going into.
Like mentioned above chi ji works great with the fey line builds in that it allows you to continue doing damage while doing burst healing.
Gas Dragon is life.
( Side note/Random idea: I like how the class trinket works to buff SCK, esp when combined with SG/SI stat buffs, gives me something to do with SG/TFT/Yu’Lon when I don’t need them for healing so I never sit on or waste the various buff stacks.
In the future once we lose the class trinket it would be neat if they added a stacking SCK buff to Yu’Lon specifically, SooMist Charges it up, 1-10 stacks, up to 100%-150% more SCK damage while Yu’Lon is active, this damage bonus does not convert through Fey Line ( so shouldn’t change anything for FL/Chi’Ji users and gives Yu’Lon users similar burst dmg to what the trinket can provide - when we dont need to heal ).
Random tip:
If you pop Fort Brew before Yu’Lon it will buff ALL of the Chi Cocoons from Celestials/Celestial Harmony. So you can essentially buff each of the 100k shields to 120k ish ( tested around 20% vers ). Essentially giving you another 100k total healing from popping your celestial - assuming the shields are eaten up, which they usually will be.
Life Cocoon works the same way. With Calming Coalescence I get around 970k-1mil LC absorb. With Fort Brew popped before I can get another 150-200k worth of Life Cocoon/absorb. ( think I ended up with a 1160k LC, a random DK I tested on got like 1330K worth of absorbs due to their one ability xD )
Fort Brew has no GCD so it can be macro’d with/just before Yu’Lon and it works to slightly buff Chi Cocoons every 5 mins if you really dont need Fort Brew at the time.
While it’s less practical to combine with LC, it’s just something to think about when/if you need/plan to use the Chi Cocoons to help smooth out some incoming unavoidable mechanics that could one shot people. ( especially if you were going to pop a personal defensive already )
Slightly justifies Fort Brew’s longer cooldown xD
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Yea for fistweaving Chiji definitely slightly more optimal but typically speaking if you are running Invoker’s Delight, you do so much healing (and dps) from spin to win during Invoker’s that don’t even bother casting any Enveloping Mists anyways — unless it’s like using Chiji on a boss fight, then probably use the enveloping mists effectively.
It’s also convenient to just Tiger Palm x 2 → Chiji → Blackout Kick → Enveloping Mist → Spin to Win
This makes it so you get instant EvM on your first global after popping Chiji to put enveloping breath on the party before spinning to win with Invoker’s.
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Are you using a raid build or a mythic build? Not really sure how to get Invoke’s along with the Failine build.
I’ll link the build when I get home but instead of Rising Mist / Sheiluns Gift I take Faeline, Ancient Concordance, Awakened Faeline, Tea of Serenity, Ancient Teachings, Gift of the Celestials, Secret Infusion, Invoker’s Delight for M+
The stat prio I use us crit>vers because you get 33% haste every min so you want to do as much damage as you can during these windows.
Use TFT → RSK → Chiji in order to also gain 15% more vers during your Invoker’s Window (Note: you want to get the secret infusion before popping chi ji so you can spend as many hasted globals on SCK)
Get upwards of like 35%crit/45% vers without trinket during chi ji and then the 33% haste makes you pump
EDIT: heres the build https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/monk/mistweaver/DAOBUCUZFUZEFIKIECRQOVVVRFkEUVQiAUQDBAE
Theres a few flex points:
Summon White Tiger Statue vs Diffuse Magic (Diffuse Magic on bursting / VP fort / HoI fort / bursting weeks). Save them all is ignored because although its a powerful effect, if people are dropping to sub 35% in this meta its a really bad sign as you have to keep everyone topped off so you get very little uptime of save them all. Otherwise, this is a pure damage build that focuses on White Tiger Statue → Secret Infusion (Vers) → Invoker’s Delight → Spin to Win big dmg
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