With the expansion coming to an end, was there any additional lore updates on twilight dragons, chromatic dragons, undead dragons, or pandaria cloud serpents.
I feel like there may have been stuff I might have missed , but I’m pretty sure I didn’t see anything related to these dragon groups
Maybe more importantly, Sabellian’s brood (which accounts for like 99% of the Black Dragonflight) was thoroughly absent from the main Black Dragonflight narrative + neither the Red nor frankly the Green Dragonflight were actually given a proper arc. Red stuff was secondary questline material mostly, and Green stuff was Nelf material
Out of every single one of the main Flights, only the Blue were given truly worthy screentime
Also like there’s Ysera lol
As far as the story is concerned, this expansion has been… perplexing to say the least, sure looks like its writing process has been somewhat chaotic
I don’t think cloud serpents are dragons in universe, It would be cool if that was the case, but since there is a cloud serpent wild god, I think cloud serpents aren’t dragons, even though they’re basically chinese dragons.
I just know that I was rather surprised that Serinar was no show. I expected him to at least appear at the Obsidian Citadel or something.
For those who don’t remember Serinar was a black dragon we worked with in Wrath against the Scourge.
Chromatic dragons are all sort of screwed up experiments that are mostly all dead now. They frustratingly say cloud serpents are dragon kin, but will not clarify HOW they relate exactly.
Twiights though… that is one I was very perplexed by. Wrathion was a shoe in and it would of given him a lot of weight if he took charge of them.
I think Chromatic dragons are all dead (most of them barely even reached adulthood before expiring too). Cloud serpents aren’t related to dragons.
Twilight dragons being missing is really weird though. The end of BfA with the AOTC mount set up Wrathion tending to a new clutch of Twilights, and then nothing came of it.
Besides Wrathion and Ebyssian, every single Black Dragon we see is of Sabellion’s Brood. Wrathion and Ebyssian were the last 2 Black Dragons left on Azeroth until Dragonflight. Wrathion had the rest killed in the Fangs of the Father questline during Cataclysm, the exceptions being Serinar, as mentioned aboved, and Seldarria, from Stonetalon Mountains.
They were all irrelevant to the main Black Dragonflight arc. The only one to receive a modicum of focus was Voraxian, and only in secondary questlines.
That’s true for every flight. The only relevant dragons were the Aspects, the Incarnates, and direct descendants of Ysera. The exception to this is the Blue Dragonflight and Chromie, really.
I do agree with your statement about only the Blue Dragonflight getting worthy screentime with the exception of the Black Dragonflight. The focus for the Black Dragonflight had to be about settling on a new Aspect and the candidates coming to terms with Neltharian’s Legacy.
The Green Dragonflight was basically ignored in their entire zone in favour of Centaurs who, quite honestly, didn’t add anything to the story except for allowing Tauren to have issues with them, but even that was a side story that is easily forgotten. After that they had one renown locked storyline that a lot of people missed and then we didn’t see Merithra again until after DOTI. Hell, Merithra and Ebyssian’s new models only came in with 10.2 and they’re not even updated in Valdrakken! They’re still using their generic dragon forms in Valdrakken! You only see the updated ones in the Amirdrassil epilogue.
The Bronze Dragonflight had a decent one, there was no other story to do besides their fate as Infinites, which I still think they need to expand upon what is happening with the rest of the Infinite Dragonflight.
The Red Dragonflight I fully expected a 10.3 with Iridikron’s “return” but only in the sense to try and corrupt Alexstrasza. I thought the last boss of the expansion was going to be Alexstrasza and us saving her from being corrupted by the void. But instead they completely forgot about the Oathstones and just let Alexstrasza narrate the expansion.
This was definitely an improvement over Shadowlands but they really didn’t let each Dragonflight shine.
The reds did not really have anything to work through, their flight was internally cohesive. The Greens all followed Merithra, she just needed to learn to believe in herself as she had been aspect in all but name since Legion.
The Flights that really needed work to at a basic level be existent functional entities were the blacks and blues, and they got it.
The Bronze were…a weird one. I do not think they are quite done and will crop back up during the Saga. Perhaps in The Last Titan the truth of the Titan conspiracy will be what causes Norzdormu to snap and go true Morizond.
And that is particularly problematic for the Black Dragonflight, simply because Sabellian’s brood is literally what turned the Black Dragonflight from a virtually extinct Flight to a flourishing one in a matter of minutes.
I heavily disagree that the Black arc was good for a variety of reasons, but that’s a topic for a another day, haha
Agree with the rest of your post (besides the Infinite stuff : I thought it was bad and insanely predictable, but then again “predictable” really is a word that defines the entirety of Dragonflight’s MSQ, so… yeah). Definitely still an improvement over Shadowlands, if only because the setting and story beats at hand in DF are just fundamentally more interesting
What annoys me the most is that they had the Twilights Hammer have cameo with them trying to manipulate the worldbreaker cult. And yet they could not bring in the twilight dragons? Neltharions ‘perfect’ creations? Especially since one of the major patches focused on Neltharions legacy?
One of my favourite parts of BFA was seeing the twilight dragonflight question their existence during the Island Expeditions. They feel like they are forgotten, rejected, aimless since their failure to achieve the hour of twilight. The very thing they were created to do. So they believe that Azerite is what N’zoth promised them in return for their ‘service’. Vexiona would later use their desperation for a purpose to manipulate newly born Twilight Dragons into serving N’zoth. Even sending a few of them to be infused with void magic directly. Becoming void dragons like herself. Which Wrathion would later remove whatever lingering influence N’zoth had over them (see the AotC N’zoth mount for reference). There is also Goriona who has become the WoW version of Gendry in sense of the ‘keeps on rowing’ meme. Goriona is still flying away from the Skyfire even as we speak.
What is even more strange is that he never showed up during Cata. Nalice, the Black Dragon who sends us to Serinar did. As a kill target during the Fangs of the Father questline. So did Blizzard simply forget about Serinar? Or were they planning on saving him for something else that ended up going nowwhere?
Both are equally possible. Though as Sabellian remained on Outland until Dragonflight it could simply a matter of not having an idea for him. Even so, Serinar could have easily just been a NPC at the Obsidian Citadel or even a quest target as the leader of the Worldbreakers, over a no show in the Black Dragonflight story.
Perhaps we’ll see him in The Last Titan, which some what I understand will include a Northrend revamp.
I had really been hoping to see an arc where Wrathion, ever the smooth-talking manipulator (of variable effectiveness), began interacting with each of Sabellian’s brood individually in an attempt to sway them to his side… and in the process, discovers for the first time how much he enjoys spending time with his new non-corrupted brethren. I was hoping for him to have a bit of a freak-out about how many of his own flight he had slain - some perhaps even the grandparents or close family of the people he is now becoming friends with - and use that to propel an arc where Wrathion chooses to rededicate his fight for the Aspect title to be about doing the best for them rather than simply for the prestige and power (though he would still absolutely want the prestige and power, too).
(I think it’d be more fun if Wrathion and Sabellian were written to clash over their ideals of how the dragonflight should be run, rather than it being a popularity contest.)
I think that would lead into the “family” DF theme quite nicely. And, while it would be less topical now after the Aspect was chosen, this could still be a fun future plot for the black dragonflight.
What are your thoughts on the Bronze flight’s story in Dragonflight? It wasn’t overshadowed the way the Green Flights’ was, but I think the blue flight sets a standard for story-telling quality that is hard to compare the others to.
Pandarian Serpents are more like incarnate Loa. They have no titan connection.
You mean Yu’lon and Tsulong are Spirit Incarnates?
You’lon is regenerated though Jade Statues… They really don’t seemto have anything in common with the titan creations, they aren’t uplifted proto-drakes.
You’lon is a odd outlier in logic as she does not follow the normal wild god rebirth cycle at all
I know I’m not the one you asked but I personally hated the bronze story. It is absolutely the lowest point of Dragonflight, by far.
-It was constant jokes from beginning to end. The awkward dracthyr, the murloc world, the alternate Chromies, etc.
-Chromie overshadowed Soridormi despite the latter being Nozdormu’s wife. not to mention Anachronos wasn’t even mentioned.
-They changed Murozond’s story from being a tragedy about the inevitability of fate into just lolcorruption.
-It was undone as quickly as it happened, making the entire thing lose what little weight it had (which wasn’t a lot in the first place because of the aforementioned constant jokes).
Literally the only saving grace was that Chromie didn’t become the new Aspect. But at this point she’s so flanderized and infantilized that I never want to see her again.