Misdirection question

I swear I think Misdirection is somehow pulling for me.
This has happened twice that Ive counted so far.
Im being swamped because tanky isnt holding aggro very well, I hit Misdirection which is macroed to tank first (always my focus in runs), pet second.

#showtooltip misdirection /cast [@focus,exists][@pet,exists] Misdirection

Both times Ive noticed it, its pulled a nearby elite or boss and when I look down in the chat box it shows that my pet hit the boss/elite first even though Its standing right by me and hasnt done a thing towards the boss/elite but is literally fighting the trash we’re clearing.

It only seems to happen if we are very close to the elite/boss but its happened exactly the same way at least twice now.

If we misdirect to our pet, does that cause the pet to pull aggro on anything nearby?
It makes sense that it does, I guess.
Im just new to using Misdirection in the way that Ive been using it recently so Im not sure what exactly its doing as far as possibly pulling nearby crap.

Anyone know for sure?

Should I remove the pet part of that macro and just have it send the threat to the tank only?

(as a side note, I did spend about an hour trying to google an answer but couldnt really find anything recent )

Misdirection just switches your aggro from you to who/what you put it on.It doesn’t pull aggro form other mobs and just gives your Aggro away and I don’t use a Macro for it and just use it on what is aggroing at the time.

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so if Im attacking a mob and doing highest DPS, then were to use Misdirection…is it feasible that my pet would get all that aggro and that could pull a nearby boss?

I was surprised to see my pets name as hitting the boss first twice. We were just clearing a mob of maybe 8 trash and I hit misdirect hoping to keep everything aimed at the tank, but twice its done that to me where the boss is pulled and its showing that my pet got first hit.

It doesn’t add aggro, it just diverts it. I wouldn’t worry about the boss thing unless he pulls aggro off of the boss and/or pulls the boss.

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As SV you generally should not have any issues with your pet pulling aggro off of the tank in dungeons unless that tank is…not focusing all that much.

Sounds odd. If the only thing you’re doing is casting misdirect on a target(focus), that should not trigger any offensive attack for you unless you have some macro where MD has been combined with for example a pet attack command or another ability.

Also, unless you’re spamming Kill Command as SV, and unless you/your pet is standing next to the target enemy, it should not be able to hit it before the tank does(again, assuming the tank is the one who does the initial pull).

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Im positive that Im using KC…but in neither case did I have the boss targeted.
Just really odd.

we were pretty much ready for the boss anyway, but I hate pulling for the tank or doing anything until he has initiated the fight.
Just going to have to be more careful, I guess.

on that point…no…just a basic macro to MD to my focus first or my pet second.

To say the least yeah…

Especially if you don’t even have the enemy targeted. The only other way your pet could start to attack the creature would be if you have some sort of mouseover attack command-macro where that is included.

Hmm, set a focus target and use your macro for MD on it, and nothing else.

Make sure you double check that the focus target actually receives the MD effect(should be displayed as the focus target gets a small swirl over it’s head for a second, followed by it growing in size for the duration).

If your focus target does not show this MD animation, you’re not actually casting MD on it.

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No mouseovers on my hunters.
when it happened the first time I was thinking glitch or bug or something.
The second time I just figured there was something I didnt know about MD that I needed to understand so it wouldnt happen again.

Sounds like a plan.

I really dont want to have to stop using MD over not understanding something about how it works.

/thumbsup

You shouldn’t have to.

MD in itself is not an offensive ability. It does not trigger any attacks on it’s own. At least it should not.

If it does, then it’s either a bug or there’s something you’re doing which you’re not thinking of atm.


Here’s my MD macro that I’ve been using for as long as I can remember btw. It does have a mouseover condition(just remove that part if you want to).
Try it to see if there’s something wrong with your own macro.


/showtooltip Misdirection
/cast [target=mouseover,help,exists,nodead][@focus,help][@pet,exists] Misdirection

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weird.
It happened again on the same boss.
The tank is standing there but hadnt pulled the boss.
I hit Misdirection and it immediatly pulls the boss.
I asked the tank and he said it didnt matter, but he didnt pull it apparently.
Gotta be something going on with MD that Im not understanding here.

Could you’re pet have attacked/taunted after using MD on him?

nope. I was watching very closely.
This time instead of saying my pet hit the boss first, though, it said the tank did.
But he said he didnt do it. We were all just standing there for a few seconds and curiosity got the best of me so I just hit MD to see if it would pull.
I changed it so my pet isnt on MD macro at all now, its just the tank when in a dungeon, so it makes sense my pet didnt show as the first hit this time.

I’m going to try it again when we run that one and see if it keeps happening

I have no clue.

Same as before.

If misdirection is the only action you perform here, it should not pull anything.

Without actually seeing what happens for you there, there’s nothing more I can tell you.

Either way, bug or not, wait with casting MD until the tank has moved in and started hitting things.

Well it was. Im positive of it this time. I changed the macro to only hitting my focus, which was the tank. Literally no one was moving or doing anything at that point. I figured it was a good time to see if it would happen again, pretty sure that it’d just toss that MD thing over the tanks head like it always does and that’d be it.
The second I did it, the boss came running at the tank.
I asked. Tank didnt pull.

I guess we can do this 80 more times and it wont really matter at this point.
MD is doing something weird that Im not understanding…either all the time, or intermittently. Just going to have to be more careful and wait until the fight is actually started before using it from now on.

Pretty much.

Curious thing is my MD macro used to include the pet if i wasnt in group content and there was no tank. Both times it happened then it said my pet was the first one to hit the boss…even though I saw my pet attacking the mob we were fighting.

This time I removed all the script and just had this…

/use [@focus] Misdirection

and my focus was the tank. Nothing could send it to my pet instead.
And this time it said the tank was the first hit.
He said he didnt pull it and I could see that he was just standing there doing nothing at the point I hit MD.

I dont suppose we’re going to get it resolved in here so I’ll just have to send it as a bug report and let blizzard figure it out.
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