If you look up Classic WoW on YouTube and Twitch you will find that the people creating content for this game for the most part have garbage view counts, there is no one actively searching nor seeking any Classic WoW content or information because all of this stuff is only relevant to people who played this game years ago and most of those people have moved on with life.
The people playing WoW today are a mix of the players like myself who are casual and play for nostalgia reasons and those who peaked in 2008 and want to lock themselves into that time era because they can’t cut it in any other game/genre.
These people who are actively stuck in that 2008 mindset are the ones ruining Classic WoW by constantly following these BiS lists and tier lists and alienating people from the game by only selecting people who are considered meta.
Here are some cold hard FACTS about Classic WoW:
- You do NOT need to play meta/BiS in order to complete any of the content.
- You do NOT need to have every world buff/consume in order to complete any of the content.
And also the top 10 Speed run guilds who like to Min/Max the most get paid less than a McDonalds Salary for their time and effort if you search their revenue on Socialblade, virtually NO ONE cares about your parses or gear in a 20 year old reboot.
This culture of people who blindly play the game as if they were some YouTuber/Twitch Streamer absolutely ruined this game with their constant toxicity and gate keeping, these are the same people who will move factions because their fav YouTuber told them it’s meta and these are the same people who will RMT/GDKP because they don’t even want to play the game they just want to have the best gear.
If you are the type of player I described in this post, the type to brag about your parses and make fun of Casuals because they didn’t compete in your sweaty MMO experience then you are the reason why Classic WoW is dead/dying.
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And them doing this affects you how? Honestly it’s casuals like you that ruined wow in the first place. Casuals destroyed Diablo, wow, and StarCraft.
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Why did you respond to it? Just flag and move on.
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I joined an MS > OS TK raid the other week as a healer while half my gear was still blue. I don’t think I’ve ever been turned down because of my gear. Is this just a DPS problem?
Bill Gates ruined wow by creating Microsoft and gave developers the ability this game to create this game in the first place.
Stop projecting and focus on the real issues here!
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This guy is one step from making insufferable video essays on youtube.
If anything it was the elitists that ruined it, you people want everything catered to you with no care in the world for anyone else.
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Elitist made wow, Diablo, and StarCraft thrive stop trolling. The recent new versions of wow, Diablo, StarCraft failed miserably because of casuals watering it down.
Diablo 2 best diablo
Wow tbc/lich king best wow expansions
StarCraft 1 best StarCraft
Diablo 3/immortal worst Diablo
Cata and beyond worst wow expansions
StarCraft 2 a failure
You see the difference the most successful blizzard games were built by elite gamers and the ones that failed miserably were built by casuals. To be honest all the post new blizzard games after lich king are failures too. Casuals killed blizzard that’s the truth.
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I mean it’s TK which is old content and healers are hard to find considering how dead TBC is due to all the min/max elitists driving people away.
Diablo Immortal turned over a massive profit, WoW tokens also turned over a massive profit and yeah I guess SC failed but even then SC was always an elitist gatekeeper’s paradise.
So no you’re wrong, Casuals bring money and profit and people like you just drag the game down and make it unplayable by constantly min/max everything and ruining it for all us normal players.
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The fact that you think that the only people that play classic WoW are the people trying to relive their hayday and casuals is just flat out wrong. I didn’t play back when classic first came out and I’m not a casual so there’s already another demographic of player that you didn’t mention, the people who don’t want to play retail for whatever reason but still want to play WoW.
There’s many people like me, I agree that the players that are like me are probably number the least in the playerbase but we’re there. BiS lists aren’t bad for the game, they give players something to work toward, a goal and when you get that piece of gear that’s BiS for multiple phases it feels like a reward for doing the work.
It’s true you don’t need to have BiS to clear any of the content that’s a pretty obvious statment since we can clear SWP with BT/Hyjal/ZA gear and I doubt that even half of them were considered in BiS gear.
It’s also true that you don’t need to have every world buff/consume to clear the content, but why would you intentionally make it harder for yourself and your raid? This is what I don’t understand about this, you make it harder for you and the people you raid with when you don’t follow through and get world buffs.
There’s BiS lists for Diablo, there’s meta builds for Starcraft, pretty much every game that could have a BiS list has a BiS list. Now the people that refuse to take gear that’s not BiS is strange to me but if anything the BiS lists are just a guide to go off of.
Casuals are actually the cause of WoWs decline, the accessibility and ease of use that casuals ask for pretty much made retail WoW. I don’t see how WoW “elitism” can make the game worse for casuals because those people who you consider “elite” won’t even play with casuals and will only play with other elites, or perhaps this is what you mean.
People are free to choose who joins their raids and if they decide that they want what’s considered meta then they can.
You have some wild ideas about the game mate.
Honestly more of a class and spec problem. I mostly do PvP anyway but if I try to get into a pug as an arms warrior and im not a buyer with gold to flash I dont even get a response from most groups lol.
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I like min/maxing and I am a competitive PvP player.
The only thing that I will add and kind of lines up with the “min/max = bad!” idea is min/max has lead to farming other players for gold and using RMT to stay competitive because if you look at it through a lens of efficiency why would I waste my time otherwise.
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I’m a holy pally, it’s just as bad, everyone wants Priests and Shamans in TBC.
I’ll get my time come wrath, oh my time will come.
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Its impressive that you’re simultaneously a Grandmaster in SC2, Arena Gladiator every season of modern AND classic WOW AND have time to post on the forums. Oh don’t forget you’re also the rank 1 on the ladder in every class in D2R and D2.
Not even a good troll thread, keep trying OP
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You really have to find a guild that matches your play values & stick with them, otherwise you will likely end up hating the game in this era of MMORPGs & gaming in general.
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min max breathed life into this game
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100% Without min max and parsing the only people left playing will be the op and people equally as bad. Which will reduce server pops by roughly 99%.
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Personally I’ve found that most players who intentionally avoid the meta (despite knowing what is actually best), complain about minmax players, and claim that the game is dead are some of the most miserable and selfish players I have ever seen.
Back in classic these people would find their way into my guilds and it never ended well. People raging because a meta class who was more than twice as useful was getting loot before them. People quitting because of being asked to respec temporarily while we recruited to fill holes in the roster.
Its incredible how people who expect everyone else to cater to their intentionally detrimental to the group decisions and get angry if they don’t somehow think they have some moral high ground here.
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Hurr durr people who are good at the game are toxic
This 100% reads as “I thought I did but I don’t”