Is there a minimum amount of haste needed to land DB+ring this patch? It was 28% but that was before they removed the cc reduction you could get on gear. You could get like 15% reduction from cc effects, maybe more if you were an arcane mage. Is it just 0.15*28 then 28 subtract that value?
I think the recommendation is still to hit 28%
How long is db in pvp? 4 seconds still?
Db use to last 3.4seconds, now it last 4 seconds.
So you have a 1.5s global and a 2 second cast time for ring of frost. You need 0% haste to make 3.5 fit into 4 up to 500ms latency
All I know is on the PvP target dummy in SW, I db, land my ring and still have ample time left on DB when it lands.
Cast time / (1+haste) = reduced cast time.
Let’s take the old values of 3.4s duration. We had 1.5s gcd and 2s cast for 3.5s of total cast time. What haste do we need to reduce that to 3.4?
3.5/(1+x)=3.4
3.5=3.4+3.4x
.1=3.4x
1/34=x
So with no latency you needed less than 3% haste. With 500ms of latency, it would take 17.6%. Don’t know where 28% came from
Okay, yea, I guess I can figure it out then with some math. I have 1% haste a gnome naked and I’m landing the ring with so much time to spare.
Xaryu or someone said it lol, and other mages have been saying it too. So yea, I don’t know either.
I am not sure if other people are dr’ing my DB blind, but the PvP target dummy in Valdraken seems to make DB last less than the PvP target dummy in SW.
Was db not nerfed by a second?
No idea. On the PvP target dummy in SW my DB lasts a full 4 seconds but on the PvP target dummy in Valdraken only around 3~ seconds. Actually, I have no idea what is going on. From what I read, most spells were buffed. I.e. Cyclone went from 5.1seconds to 6 seconds??
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I’m pretty sure my db feels 3 seconds in pvp could be wrong
Think for the most part every mage spec wants to hit that 28% mark then go mastery
Yea, maybe the PvP target dummy in SW is not working with the fixes? The Valdraken one definitely is.
It does feel 3 seconds, I can’t find what it is actually is though because the tool tip does not give that information. Is there some change I missed that reduced DB from 4seconds>3seconds?
Even at 3s, 28% feels like such an oddball number. Unless you have extremely high game latency. Talking 250+
A lot of cc was reduced by 1 second in 10.1, but other cc was reverted to old duration (fear/cyclone)
Sometimes you want the haste to ring or poly if kicked on one or the other
Also most casters just feel good with haste
Yea, I mean, I have 15% haste and I feel like I am like almost clearing it.
Oh. So yea, it must be 3 seconds with those changes.