Howdy
Does anyone know if there’s some sort of inherent miss chance for Mind Flay higher than other spells?
I have the full 10% hit bonus from the talents and even when attacking grey mobs 7 levels lower than me, I’m seeing Resists an awful lot of times.
It tends to always happen with Mind Flay and not other spells.
Appreciate any info!
There is always a flat 1% chance for a spell to resist even if hit capped on any level mob, even a level 1 mob against a 60 has this chance. You may be noticing it more with Mind Flay because you’re casting it more frequently, but this can happen with any spell for any caster class.
Well my leveling/quest rotation doesn’t actually use it more. It’s usually Blast - Pain - Mind Flay (then finish with wand).
Those 1% is more or less the frequency I see resists on other spells, I suppose, especially if attacking lower level mobs, but Mind Flay seems to miss a lot more. I would say somewhere between 5% to 10% of the casts.
It might just be an awful lot of bad luck, but it’s happened frequently enough for a few days that I wondered if there might be an inherent higher chance of missing.
I can’t say for certain if there is any specific chance to resist more often on Mind Flay, all I know is that there is a baseline 1% chance to resist on any spell even with hit cap. 
Oh well, not much to do about it anyway. I was just curious.
I’ve seen chain resists on my mage too, and he has 16 hit cap.
Probably something is bugged in the game.
I noticed a lot of resists on it as well. My priest is only 20 3/4. So I basically just got mindflay. I wonder if it has anything to do with the slow component. We know resists happen. But we also know bugs happen. I have no evidence either way, I just noticed the same thing.
Happens with all abilities in Classic the RNG mechanics I suspect aren’t the same as vanilla. I say that with some confidence because the way RNG was calculated is highly likely to be a different system and mechanism even if the values used are the “same”
Perhaps RNG is something blizzard ought to consider a revisit on, perhaps look into how it’s working now and just make it less crap. I honestly do not remember at any point ever having abilities like distract AE resist all at the same time in Vanilla, and distract in Vanilla as I remember it almost never got resisted, but in Classic it’s really common.
Also notice that on certain targets they are almost immune to crit, but other targets it feels like I crit constantly, just kinda feels broken. My memory of stuff in Vanilla is a more consistent and even experience that didn’t have long chains of resists or massive chains it crits or non-crits.
Crit is applied in a silly manner. Its something like targets dodge pushes regular hits off the roll before crit. So if you have a 25% crit. And your target has 75% dodge. If they dont dodge you crit. This is especially noticeable in warrior v rogue. Because as a warrior you then mostly crit rogues, or they dodge and you overpower crit.
Yeah, I kinda think things are mechanically a mess. I just avoid getting hit by Warriors because if I don’t it’s over in 2 globals. Instead they can just bleed to death because depending on backstab doesn’t work out due to some warriors getting crit in every single attack and others literally may as well be immune to crit. Same gear too, in the same game, just some wacky pre-determined BS system that I never had trouble with in Vanilla.
I found that if I swap weapons, like go from Perds main hand to like Drake fang main hand my RNG changes and things feel normal for a while then I gotta swap weapons again. A friend told me about this technique and it works… this makes me wonder If they have some kinda crit numerical throttling and boosting to keep your numbers in a certain range.
Mmmmmmmm… You might be onto something there?
Maybe the chance to resist the spell itself and the creature’s chance to resist stun are adding up somehow, or the interaction of both are giving them a random higher chance to resist it?
If it’s the case I don’t imagine it’s intended… but who knows…