Until you can 100% fix the disconnects it causes, disable it.
Actually… It’s been 20 years and it’s still bugged. Take the L and remove it.
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should they? yes.
will they? probably not.
incompetence is incompetence.
There’s probably a couple handfuls of malignant narcissists that are still having too much fun force dc’ing people as often as they can, and another dozen or so entitled incels that want to keep it in the game at the expense of the other 99+% because the ability is unique or because it allows for “skillful” plays.
Probably most are blizzard employees. Wouldn’t surprise me tbh, nothing could after the events of 2021.
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I guess in ranked (until they somehow find a fix) that’d be fine, removing it from the game 100% no.
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Biggest issue with removing it is it would deserve something put in it’s place as it’s a major CC feature of the class.
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They did remove it once when there was a larger vulnerability. I agree it should be removed again. As much as I do love the ability, we don’t really need it right now. Someone else mentioned that they could just make it disorient in pvp instead, but that would make it quite a bit stronger unless they make the duration only a few seconds, which would make it weaker. It’s a tricky ability since the fail rate is so high. Priests would survive without it (again).
Maybe it could include the channel still and just not provide control of the character.
It’s usually dispelled right away anyway, but it sucks that it DCs people all the time.
Thematic/iconic.
Basically deemed worth the small chance of a forced disconnect on either end.
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Relatively small chance. To me it’s too frequent.
Even 1% is an incredibly high failure rate imo.
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Right, just disabling in pvp as they have done in the past. Not removing the iconic ability entirely.
They removed blades edge…
I miss it.
But maybe it’s for the best since people were falling through it.
There are some cool MC plays but it does DC people much more often than any other cc knock or fear.
Yeah I’m 100% on board with giving priests a comparable talent to compensate. Even down for it to be a better talent than what mind control currently is, just want it to not force disconnects half the time it’s used.
Tons of possibilities, door of shadows, maybe a juiced up spammable version of mind games, heck I’d even be willing to give priests that trinket on use everyone hated years ago (it yeeted out a huge healing absorb and damage iirc, forgot the name), something comparable to dark simulacrum, anything not bugged tbh, etc.
If really adamant about the compensation being purely cc, maybe a spammable spell that applies the same loss of control that people get from dispelling spriest dots?
Anyway, I’d be open to anything honestly, even if it constituted a large buff.
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And the only spell that ccs you when you cc someone else.
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It should just work like fear during the channel, character being mced loses control but isnt controlled. Simple, MC stays DCs vanish 
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But the best part about mc is moving the enemy player into a ring of frost or make them jump off a bridge.
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Fair enough, but that’s not a good reason to ruin the gaming experience for others by dc’ing them.
Lots of other spells could be used that facilitate those effects. A simple distract-type placed aoe (comparable to rogue distract, but just forces the player to move/run 3 or so seconds in a direction based on the placement of the aoe) would allow for both of these plays.
Can def agree to disagree, but imo you guys advocating or insisting for this ability to stay in the game in its current form are fried af, and pretty selfish imo.
Ideally blizzard would gaf and fix the issue so that the spell didn’t dc people, but it doesn’t appear that will ever happen.
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A little bit selfishness, yes.
But all am saying is, it happens once in a blue moon. Is that a good enough reason to remove mind control from all the priests out there?
They can’t remove mind control and replace it, MC is what keeps us priests from becoming all powerful unkillable monsters.
Making us CC with our pants down and delicates flapping in the wind is what distinguishes us from evokers sleep walk after all. You change that we’re basically identical to every other healer with all our powerful mobility, personal defensives and hard interrupts.
I can’t speak for everyone, but based on forum posts alone I think it’s happening fairly often.
For me personally, if I had to toss a number out there, I’d say it happens at least 5% of the time and as much as 20% of the time. Even 5% to me is an unacceptable frequency and one that precludes the phrase “once in a blue moon” from being used.
Yes, I think it should be removed if it’s bugged. Perhaps brought back if they ever fix the bug, and give priests something else in the meantime to compensate that doesn’t cause disconnects.
Even if it affected me 1% of the time, I’d want the bug fixed or the ability removed. Playing bugged video games doesn’t feel good outside of when you’re in an alpha or beta, especially when the bug has been around as long as this one.
The true way you’ll see how fried you guys actually are is simple.
Just for one second think about how you’d feel about this topic if the priest casting the mind control was always the one that got disconnected.
You guys know you’d be pissed off and annoyed, even if it only happened once every dozen or so games.
If that was the way mind control was bugged, I could safely bet my life on seeing at least 1 new complaint thread per day from priest players.
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Wanting it to stay in the game has the same degree of selfishness as wanting it gone from priests.
And it also has a chance to dc the priest as well, people will just complain for the sake of complaining at this point.
Btw it’s not happening fairly often, it’s just that addicts will post about it when they lose 1 out of 100 games bc of it and it gives the impression that happens a lot bc you see 1 person post about it once a month.
No it doesn’t, not when I’m suggesting equal or even better compensation for it being removed. Ideally I don’t even want it removed, but if it’s to stay, then the bug needs to be fixed, period.
I’ve never disconnected when casting it on my priest, so not even sure if you’re telling the truth or gaslighting. I’m assuming the latter, and guessing that even if that’s true, it’s exceedingly rare compared to how often the mc target gets disconnected.
Complaints about bugs are the most valid complaints out there imo, especially when we pay a subscription to play the game.
Imagine trying to gaslight people who have had to experience force disconnects due to priests abusing this ability (whether intentional or not) into thinking that they’re in the wrong for complaining about a game-breaking/ruining bug.
You and anyone that agrees with you should be ashamed for thinking this way. I know I would.
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Yeah or mcing the mage or hunter to take over the ring or trap so the others on their team run into it. Or auto attacking for poisons or phys or magic dmg debuff even though it’s not that impactful but it feels good lol.
Oh and the holy ray of hope surprise, or controlled forbearance.
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