Alleria did nothing in an entire content patch of the expansion (11.1).
By definition, TWW is no an Alleria expansion.
Also, you had no problem with BfA and Shadowlands being Sylvanas expansions.
Oh no, one whole patch???
You must be joking.
Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!
Youâre not actually serious, are you??
Bwahahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!
You need to improve your trolling game, this is insufferably weak. You didnât even try to call TWW a Horde-centric faction because Undermine exists.
Do better. Be better.
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You know this really isnât complicated to understand.
If you say TWW is âAlleria expansion,â I expect Alleria to be important in EVERY patch of the expansion. Thatâs what âX expansionâ means.
Was Alleria an important character in Undermine?
No?
Then itâs not an Alleria expansion.
Pretty simple.
And yes, Goblin Land is a Horde storyline and Gazlowe is a Horde leader, these are facts that ruin your âwhyyyy Blizzard ignores the Horde whyyyyâ agenda.
No you donât. You expect her to be the most prominent character throughout the expansion, above all others.
BfA was a Horde v Alliance expansion. Yet their conflict was over before the final patch.
Cataclysm was a Deathwing expanssion. He had nothing to do at all with 4.1.
Cataclysm was a Thrall-focused expansion. He also had nothing going on in 4.1.
Stop being so bad at trolling.
So you do think TWW is a Horde-centric expansion?
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Terrible examples.
BfA was both an Old God and a Faction War expansion. Cataclysm was both an Old God and a Faction War expansion.
Theyâre literally the reason why people say âdonât mix Old Gods with Faction War because thereâs no time to develop both in one expansion.â
Itâs almost like, bear with me, expansions are too complex to have only one theme.
No, I donât. I think TWW is a Void expansion mixed in with the Underground concept.
I also think that a certain subset of the playerbase, as per usual and as is routine nowadays, exaggerated with their QQing because the Goblin (Horde race) literally got an entire zone.
And if youâre going to say âooooo but the cartels were neutral!!!â, Iâm just going to point out that Dornogal and Hallowfall are also Neutral yet it doesnât stop you people from complaining about all the humans, elves, and, check notes, oh yes, dwarves (you know, THE quintessential underground race) running around in Khaz Algar.
If that were true, you wouldnât have been forced to ignore two of them, while also proving my point that TWW IS an Alleria expansion, because an expansion doesnât need to have a single focus.
Youâre too easy. Be a challange next time and youâll get more than four responses.
Erevine and Zerde are somehow more interesting.
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Iâm not here to get responses buddy. For that I have Reddit and X.
I am here to see the forumâs reactions to Midnight.
Believe what you want. I know what is true and what is fake agenda.
TWW is an âAlleria expansionâ when Alleria does nothing for 1/3 of the story haha. 
Oh I totally expect Alleria being shoved in our faces during Midnight. My silent wish is only that I want the blood elf and Nightborne cast to be involved. That is all.
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You are not worth taking seriously with an asinine take like this.
Your broken speech is indistinguishable from a Hasbara bot at this point. No one should respect this person or take their posts seriously.
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âI know what is true and what is fake agendaâ is grammatically correct.
If thatâs the reading comprehension level⌠no wonder TWW storyline was so grossly misunderstood. 
Also, that âX botâ line⌠haha.
Also, I didnât provide any âtakes.â I stated facts. Facts are not takes. And TWW factually isnât an âAlleria expansion.â
Sure, Varodoc. No one takes you seriously. Go post to yourself in the corner while the rest of us keep you on ignore. Enjoy the cuck chair.
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Wouldnât it actually make sense for the Forsaken to be there? Wasnât that the whole thing in Wrath with Death Knights/Forsaken being immune to Void whispers and stuff?
I get why Blizzard has the Void Elves there, they have been basically non-existent since their inception. I donât mind having the Void Elves there, but it doesnât make sense that there also isnât a Horde equivalent like the Forsaken.
Which also makes me wonder if itâs because Blizzard thinks the aesthetic of Forsaken and Void Elves âdoesnât make senseâ or match well so they decided not to include them? Seems dumb but it is Blizzard.
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Please, I implore you, ignore me. I wasnât even talking to you in this thread.
This would require the devs to involve the Horde in the story. Thatâs a cardinal sin. How dare you even suggest it.
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I mean, it apparently didnât make any sense to have the most death-tied race in the expansion about death, so I dunno what possible expansion it would make sense to show the forsaken in, beyond as the genocidal comic-Natsi stand-ins doing war crimes and happily throwing around bio-weapons.
Maybe during the inevitable Hallows Eve v Winter Veil war?
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This gameâs story is a comedy at this point. I canât read this out loud with a straight face. How did we get to this point? This is why everyone outside the WoW bubble mocks WoWâs story.
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Three factors:
- The internal dev fight between âWC1/WC2 Good Alliance Evil Horde vs WC3 Good Alliance Good Hordeâ
- A bunch of middle aged/borderline geriatric developers who genuinely are not capable of growing past the narrative standards and tropes of the 60s-80s Western RPGs
- Progressive Liberal Centrists who are deeply ignorant about the worldâs peoples and cultures who only want to âtell the stories they want to tellâ
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This is a pretty big flaw in World of Warcraft going back to the beginning of the MMO, unfortunately. The Horde were pretty clearly given a good direction in Warcraft 3 and made sympathetic, but as soon as we reach the MMO a lot of the marketing revolved around essentially selling the playerbase on a more âsavageâ and âbarbarianâ aesthetic. This then became what people were into, and what they played into.
I think a lot of damage was done to the Horde as a concept with how the two faction system functions in the MMO. Like⌠you mean to tell me what this group of escaped slaves, exiles, vagabonds and other sorts of outcasts who banded together to survive in a wild and dangerous land formed a nation-state which is based on ethnicity? Itâs stupid. The Horde doesnât work with race-based factions. This is how we get to the Horde being ruled by the barbarian aesthetic racial supremacist Garrosh, who DID make for a pretty decent villain but also hardly actually fits in with the idea of the Horde put forward in Warcraft 3.
The whole concept has just been mismanaged from the beginning, and a lot of it has to do with how bad early Blizzard was at writing non-white cultures and societies. Now you get more focus on Humans and Elves. Weâve also had focus recently on Dwarves, Goblins, Dragons⌠all of which youâll naturally notice conform better to western standards of society. The one attempt we did get at presenting a clan-based society was the Maruuk Centaur⌠and it was bad, essentially the same quality as any tribal or clan-based society theyâve attempted to present.
I think Blizzard has essentially begun to sort of âstick to their laneâ in a sense. Which does suck, I think if the writing team was expanded to include more people interested in different cultures and societies they could present this all decently. But Iâm not so sure corporate is particularly interested in that.
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He is a troll from the mmo champion forums who always baited anyone who dislikes Void elves.
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actually the Horde has two lines of experts ready to fight the void. The cult of forgotten shadows and Relka Bloodfyre. I expect them to show up.
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