I don’t understand why people are up in arms over the devs getting tired of fighting addons to make interesting encounters. Beyond that, this is HUGE for the accessibility community. I am severely disabled and all of the movement my left hand has to do in order to dodge and cast spells is genuinely a painful experience, it got to a point I had to stop running M+ because I’m composing a symphony when I should be playing a game.
I feel like every complaint comes from a elitist view set, especially considering they specifically said Weakauras would be disabled in instanced content, NOT fully banned. The Weakauras devs reaction was, frankly, improper. It sealed for me that I’m uninstalling the addon because it felt like manufactured outrage by saying “We’re not updating to Midnight.”
The ONLY valid argument is the worry that this is the start of them nuking every addon to add to Console, which would SUCK for the disabled community even more than Weakauras flat out saying “We’re done” when there was virtually no need to. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I very clearly remember them saying it was just going to be disabled for raid and dungeons bosses and the such?
EDIT: I want to add that I understand people use Weakauras for some accessibility, I have been doing it on my Monk for ages as it helped with a few things, but I’m open to finding alternatives since they’ve decided to not update for the next expansion. The CD Tracker in game actually does quite well for me, these days.
None, but last I checked you could adjust your bar customizations with Bartender or ElvUI. This post is more specifically about Weakauras, not about them gutting addons as a whole, which we haven’t seen any inkling of them doing yet. I fail to see the relevance of this, I apologize.
Then why ask why people are up in arms if you dont know the entire story?
They are affected because Blizzard lied. They said they were going after combat addons like WAs, but ElvUI is not technically a combat oriented addon, its a UI total conversion. But because it hooks into ‘combat’ stuff, like reading tooltips and skinng action bars, ElvUI gets broke.
I cant even format my damn health numbers from 12345 K to 12M.
It’s a good thing for people who are losing eyesight or hearing or have other issues to not have addons that helped them?
Sorry honey, but I don’t run much of any raids anymore and I stick mostly to Delves. I’ve got Rheumatoid Arthritis and my QoL and UI customizations have nothing to do with elitism.
Educate yourself on the API changes. You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.
They already have in many cases, because QoL and UI customization addons and WAs are collateral damage.
WAs are not just combat related. There are a boatload of WAs that are QoL and UI customizations. Those are all toast now too.
You answered your own question. I’m asking because I don’t know the entire story, as you so pointedly put it. And again, this is the first I’m hearing of ElvUI being affected. Isn’t Blizzard also implementing a new nameplate system in Midnight? Have we seen much of that yet?
Not at all what I was implying. As someone who deals with chronic pain, I end up fatigued and unable to do things like M+ these days because the constant movement of my arm is giving me unbearable pain. I have zero doubts that new addons to help with accessibility will be coded, or Blizz will attempt to find a fix for it. There are more layers to accessibility than someone being vision impaired (which I also am, I can’t tell the difference between blue and purple so these last few raids have been very difficult for me without the help of addons telling me I’m standing in something.) or deaf. Yes, this will affect people, yes, it will take time for replacements to come out.
And again, from everything I heard and knew, Weakauras were just being disabled for the bosses. I was asking questions, I was not attacking people and I, again, apologize if that was unclear. Elitism in world of warcraft content is a massive problem, that is the sole reason I mentioned it. Saying I think, and I feel, are not me stating facts in any way shape or form, it’s me expressing opinions, things I’ve observed in my years of playing this game.
I am aware WA’s are not just combat related, also, but WA’s, as far as I’m aware, can’t change your bar layout the way that poster was mentioning. I’ll read what you sent and learn more on it, since this will more than likely answer the question I was asking. Thank you.
Then I urge you to do the research before opining. I am not one to usually pull this card, but this is an instance in which someone needs to be aware of the situation before opining on it.
Yes, and it is nowhere near as powerful or as customizable as Plater.
But again, I myself am ticked off about the skinning aspect of things. Players like Sendryn are more ticked off about the accessibility aspect.
It’s because addons that have nothing to do with predicting mechanics and giving cooldown information are being hobbled along with this war on information gathering.
It’s one thing to say enough with ever increasing complexity of mechanics, it’s another to ruin addons that exist simply to fix a broken system.
You can say “healing will be simplified now, so you don’t need to track information”. But you can’t explain why that means playing as a healer is now worse because someone decided that making the game intuitive to heal multiple players is acceptable collateral damage.
It will be fine and all the deaf, blind, and nubbys will find a way to play because at the end of the day they are addicted to WoW too. That pain and hardship is universal.
I’m interested in why you’re starting a self-righteous thread about people being “up in arms” about the addon changes, accusing the WeakAuras devs (who have spent hundreds and hundreds of hours creating an addon that you play with for free) of being “improper”, and writing off anyone who is upset about this as “elitist”, when you clearly haven’t even educated yourself on what’s actually happening?
And just as an aside, do you honestly think your disability is the only type out there? You think that because you personally will find it easier, that it’s “HUGE for accessibility”? Even where there have been multiple posts with hundreds of responses talking about accessibility being lost and how the game will become unplayable for many?
Because its not just addons that solve fights that’re being killed off. Blizzard’s attempt to paint this as “Just combat addons” is a gross mischaracterization of the broad scope the changes actually are.
And no, removing a massive chunk of addons that allowed players to create a UI thats tailored made to their needs isn’t a massive win for accessibility, in fact quite the opposite. Long-term, maybe. But the reality that we’re living in now is the fact that the UI thats even in Alpha is not good enough, and there’s no reason to think in the ~4 months till the rumored Midnight launch will be anywhere near enough time that the UI that they’ve taken years to get to the point it’s at now will be vastly upgraded with their < 10 man UI team.
The deves have ewasted restrictions on addons and will continue to do so. Your UI customizations are not going anywhere, as long as it doesnt use combat
That’s the problem really. While addons are inherently great additions the line is crossed where TOO much information is given and creates a very unfair advantage for those with and without.