There are 10k employees at Activisiin Blizzard, 40 of which have been fired. Do you think the execs actually designed anything WoW related? Do you really think the problems in game are a result of things allegedly going on at the top of the company?
Do you really understand how companies work?
No, the executives do not actually âdesignâ anything. But if you think their input is negligible, wellâŚI dunno what to tell you.
Youâre not an executive for a gaming company, and literally sit there and do nothing all day. They have SOME involvement in things. I doubt that Metzen would have given it over to someone who had absolutely nothing to do with it at all outside of sitting in an office collecting a paycheck.
Edited to add: On top of that, theyâre the face of the company. It would look really dumb if they went to Blizzcon panels and didnât have any idea what they were talking about? XD
Metzen didnât run the company, Metzen was the head of story development. He didnât start Blizzard. He was hired by them.
Execs will put time constraints and revenue goals on projects. The current state of the game is on the devs.
Iâm really not going to sit here and argue semantics with you, because itâs pointless, but itâs pretty obvious either youâre being purposefully daft, or trying to start a fight/be a troll, but regardless. It doesnât matter if execs did or didnât have a hand in being responsible for the bad stuff that happens in a game. They have to sign off on it before itâs implemented, so either way they DO (be it directly or indirectly) have a hand in it. Iâve known more than one Blizz GM (both of whom were laid off during the worse parts of Blizzâs history). Iâve worked for large-scale companies for most of my life. I know how the cookie crumbles.
Even if some particular Execs DIDNâT have anything to do with it, theyâre still going to get the mass wipe-out because thatâs how it works. Thatâs how itâs always worked. Unless youâve got an absolutely squeaky-clean resume and employee file, or youâre responsible for a lot of good things about something, youâre pretty much looking for another job sooner or later. Someone whoâs worked in this kind of climate their entire life stated it in another thread in this section of the forums. It wonât happen IMMEDIATELY, but it will happen. Thatâs how the Corporate world works. Theyâre going to put their own people in charge who they know, vs. people who they donât, unless thereâs some serious reasons why they shouldnât.
Thatâs the last time Iâm replying to any of this, so yeah.
Said by basement dwellers who donât understand how outside worksâŚ
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Oh yeah. Purchased gambling boxes? Thatâs definitely one my my red lines. Zero tolerance. Iâve hard quit a few games that have gone that route ⌠deleted chars with years of gameplay. Itâs not easy, but
(EDIT: forgot to finish sentence. Itâs not easy, not easy at all, thereâs actually a neuro-chem fallout in terms of sadness which can even have clear physical effects. Experiencing that was a real eye opener so Iâm pretty aware of the costs and benefits of choices here, to play or not to play. But Iâve never regretted the hard-exit decision when I made it.)
Any increased monetization is going to be looked at very carefully. Itâs a sub game, none of that is good for the game. But thatâs me, thatâs where I stand. Tokens are bad enough ⌠but I remember when they didnât exist ⌠itâs a devils bargain but they did the best they could to address a problem. (I think)
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Between Tokens and the weekly Vault gear⌠in my opinion thereâs enough gamble. Anything else would be excessive.
I can see why some people donât like tokens⌠it takes away a huge aspect of the game, gold farming. Professions are slacking too. I wish the future of WoW attempts to revive professions. Shadowlands is lame with that stuff. I havenât played much of the most recent WoW expansions, aside from Shadowlands⌠so I donât want to speak on the profession deal from about Legion - BFA.
Then you got the weekly Vault reward. I think this is aimed mainly for PvE players? Fine by me. I can get full conquest gear and upgrade it pretty quick with Conquest cap removed now. Only benefit I see is the RNG aspect of possibly getting a PvP piece with a gem socket, even with Rank 6 Korthia rep⌠(thankfully can purchase Conduit/Sockets account wide).
If WoW gets any more âgamblingâ events even for cosmetic/novelty items I wouldnât really dig it tbh. Thatâs just me though!!!
I donât think they (Microsoft) would bring more boxes into the game though truthfully. I canât think of anything ridiculous that they could do with that concept anymore than what they have lol!!! That doesnât mean they could find another way to butcher the game tho.
My biggest fear is console compatibility. I donât care about controller support on PC⌠if you can do it go for it. I donât think itâs the right option to go for competitive play in PvP or PvE, but some people may prefer it??
As far as WoW on Xbox⌠(unlikely, but theorycrafting here lol)⌠servers should be separate for PC and console. Donât want an influx of CoD nerdz with Game Pass logging on and uhh⌠toxifying the game more than it is. That is assuming WoW goes to Game Pass. Which I would also disagree withâŚ
These are personal opinions of mine⌠I have read many Twitter and Reddit posts and the console support seems to be one thing a lot of people want from what I found. I was relieved to come to the official forums for WoW and find more like-minded people who are also slightly skeptical about WoW being under Activision Blizzard with Microsoft owning them.
As stated, MS taking this game rather than EA is slightly good news. MS taking it may even be good news too, we can only wait and see⌠but with EA⌠man, the GAMBLING BOXES would be the heart of the game rofl. And any other MicroTransaction they would come up with no matter how ridiculous.
Hope for the best, sorry for the long post. 2023 will be interesting. Hopefully Expansion announcement soonâŚ? - 9.2 seemz fun, regardless of people crying about another grind for meta conduits, etc⌠I donât mind the solo-progression, rather than raiding/dungeon for pieces like at the beginning of the expansion for legendary memories.
Peace.
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What a wall of text this guy above me posted.
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I think this opens a lot of opportunity for WoW to increase their community. Imagine if the WoW sub was included in the xbox game pass. Would bring a lot of new players in.
Game Pass would be hit or miss for me. The player influx could be good⌠Some servers are very depopulated⌠but the toxicity that possibly comes with it could make or break some servers.
Would be fun if it balanced out some servers I guess, as far as Horde/Alliance ratio. But I know people play what they want. My main server Area 52 is I think 99.72% Horde .28% Alliance⌠according to Wowanalytica website⌠it is funny though I canât lie. Korthia quest for Shackles? I had to server hop for it. Not bad.
I own an xbox one⌠even when it was current I was never interested in Game Pass. Maybe because I was already subbed to a game? (WoW). No game Xbox has or had in recent yrs is worth game pass sub for me personally, and I feel WoW would lose budget due to the subscription being applied to multiple games⌠possibly giving a cheaper future?? I donât know 100% on that. Donât flame!!
Whoâs to say MS doesnât reboot classic Activison games though. They had some greats for sure. Put those on Game Pass & maybe⌠itâll be worth.
My opinion. Srry 4 long paragraph again.
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Praytell what are these drain-circlers?
Skyrim, one of the most played, best selling games in the history of video games? That drain-circler?
Fallout 4, one of the most played, best selling games in the history of video games? That one?
Oblivion? Morrowind? Games people are still modding and playing 15+ years later?
Nah not sorry, your trash opinion doesnât equate to fact.
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as long as people exist there will always be without exception toxic people, itâs the sad reality of this life no amount of rules changes or such can stop this we see this on several social media sites as well as inperson interactions. however more people comming in also means that social pressures will prevent that behavior where as rules against it wont. frankly microsoft brining more people into the game in the longterm will only help wow.
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Plot twistâŚ
Activision buys Microsoft.
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Kotick was there in 1991 for Activision, not Blizzard. Activision didnât become a part of Blizzard until near end of Wrath.
In my eyes Microsoft is better than activision a good example is age of empires 2. A pretty old game that theyâve given a lot of support to and the community of that game is pretty happy. Activision on the other hand was responsible for Warcraft 3 reforged, I hope things similar to that Microsoft has done with age of empires will happen with the Warcraft franchise. Iâve never cared for activision, theyâve never put a lot of effort into their projects only looking at the money they can get with the most minimal amount of effort
yeah, no. Simply because theyâve been business successful (or afloat) is not an indicator of total creative success. Iâm not talking about the wonderful moments you or I or anyone else has had in some truly beautiful things. Iâm talking about their progression as a company and their products over time.
Morrowind works almost as a pinnacle for them in terms of using technology of the time and literally making storytelling and player-experience miracles with it. But after that pushing that technology and model past over-ripe hasnât been exactly fresh. With good commercial success but Iâd argue, fueled by past love.
Fallout is another wonder boy miracle grow sort of thing. They engendered so much love for that thing itâs astonishing. But, greed got the better of them. Fallout shelter poisoned that company. They farmed the player love with lockboxes and that fat fat revenue stream broke the business structure and creativity of the company. The result was that fake-mmo debacle release. But they were also primed for it as well in some ways. People forget what their releases were like (new vegas) and how they were rescued after sale. Memories are so short.
So yeah, Bethesda is a toilet-water company ⌠they sell greywater. And Iâm sure whatever they do next will (eventually) probably be successful. They might even turn back to form a little bit to try and revive things. Hope springs eternal I guess.
I think interlocking directorates and similar schemes are really common, so yeah
Again nothing is going to change for the better unless Ion steps down as GD.
Otherwise youâll see the same legion-style content constantly being released.
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Wrong, Activision Blizzard itself became one of the largest video game companies in 2008, when Activision merged with Blizzard in a US$18.9 billion dollar dealâŚLich King expansion went live, It launched on November 13, 2008.
Changes didnât start to happen until later. And they wouldnât even take over majority control until 2013.