I don’t know about everyone but I’m getting tired of the rinse and repeat rouge + something comp or dh + something comp… and to top it off you get to see Rdruids on pretty much every freaken salad. The flaw being right now. Classes are designed and balanced around M+ while giving no thought at all to the other game aspects.
Really what makes PVP not boring is variety! What we have now is uniformity. While I know meta game is the business of the game viewed from the M+ business side of view… It’s killing PVP. Why would I go try hard mode on my X class Y spec when odds of unviability compared to other classes and specs are really high? The game at the moment compels you to play flavor of the season or you are out of commission. My guess is with a balanced class and spec representation to produce diversity and fun the atmosphere about the PVP community would change for the better.
Players who love their mains have to play an alt cuz their main’s spec is underperforming or suspend their subscription altogether because the season is unplayable for the spec. PVP cannot orbit around M+ neither does PVE-Raiding. We have separate class tuning but the same class design for PVP and PVE. Do we also need separate class design for PVP? I mean PVErs spec completely different from Pvpers so why not do it formally?
enhance sub rogue rdruid and enhance fdk mw are also great ladder comps. Enhance does not suck.
Nah, aff is great in 2s. You just need to play with an rdruid or mw that can cross cc and know when to drop aoe rot for max single target damage (like vs dh mw for example)
War, rogue, dh, WW, Boomy, Lock are all good with enhance but whatever.
2s are an irrelevant bracket.
Every spec is viable to atleast glad in 3s, and all competitive in soloq. It’s a matter of finding the people to paly with and grinding out the strats.
Yeah everything can get rating but I feel the same way as OP. I’m old and tired of this twitch inspired hyper meta game play style that mmorpgs have evolved into.
I don’t enjoy this why bring a warrior when you can bring dh/outlaw/ww why play phdk when you can cupid
class identity should matter and idc I’ll double down gearing alts in an mmo should not be easy. Seeing the armor changes and instantly boosting//sending boxes to sp/ww or whatever is just hyper lame.
This isn’t the point. The point is the gap of the top specs vs the others. If you play a stronger spec at a way less skillful level you can get higher than a spec you are significantly better at
Can’t change this. People are going to play what’s good. Lack of balance is the issue. Like this season. They haven’t properly nerfed DHs, sub, outlaw, etc. They haven’t properly buffed the underperforming specs.
People can play ‘meta’ specs all they want if they die like everything else.
Meta comps/specs can usually make several mistakes and get away with it.
Non-meta stuff is exponentially more punishing and one bad defensive overlap is usually gg.
Being punished is good. Being accountable for your play is good. Seeing other specs/comps have such a large buffer before being punished is what makes people frustrated beyond and feel the urge to re-roll.
It’s the old adage of showing up to a gun fight with a knife.
Nah, everyone lives forever rn if they know when to ween and hide when there is a gap in the defensive cd trade.
For example, the current awc champions on EU played hpriest(off meta healer) with a ww monk(off meta melee) and sub rogue( off meta rogue spec cuz every single team is running outlaw). They won because they just did a good job livelording forever until a kill window opened up in dampening.
That, and H Priest is absolute S tier when teammate can keep the other team off them (which Hoolibang 100% did… and is the actual strength of the sub rogue… similar to Outlaw. Control)
Same thing with Liquid vs The Move… The rogues were controlling the pace of the battle and the casters were the ones trying to get the kill on the other.