Hopefully they will bring it back for Shadowlands.
Definitely what I saw over the weekend. As soon as we isolated the exploiters and hyper focused them, they lost. They’d see us and begin to run the other way. I play in a group of three typically.
Weird thing about the weekend boom of them was they were appearing on EOTS.
Is this primarily in the 20s bracket? not sure why they would use it there of all brackets weird.
It is. We’ve tried and tried. No love.
29’s we ran last weekend. And it makes a bit of sense why they would. 29’s are a faster queue due to allied popping right in at 20 allowing for a higher population to queue that bracket.
Yes but its also the most visible bracket for twinks. Not that its bad they are facing them, its just that its much more visiblity allowing it to potentially be patched faster. Especially since 20s do not like it when 29s intrude into their games so they are more likely to react I have seen which makes sense, but then of course they can get games normally. But it just seems like unnecessary risks is all which is why I was wondering. You would probably take a little longer queue rather than none at all.
It’s all unnecessary risk imo. The exploit, the bracket visibility, whatever else. But - not my circus to manage. I’m just a player that was hoping something legit happened with the queues. 
I would and want to explain it a little bit more, but that in itself could give it away. Sadly nothing changed in normal regards, anything big(if anything) will probably happen in Shadowlands. It will be interesting to see if any leniance or stance changes, or perhaps they double down on it even harder(with FtPs, vets, and previous end game players). But I definitely get where you are coming from heh.
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I’ve got a pretty Debbie Downer mentality with the current dev crew and pvp. It feels to me that they are trying to push it in some obscure little corner until it fails enough to get rid of completely. Too many not pvp friendly moves for my taste. The track record isn’t a happy thing. All opinion on my part though. 
It seems like at least currently and where its pushed to head is only to max lvl stuff to continue the continous playing with rarely an end in sight. PvP changes somewhat followed this without vendors, and a theory from a previous poster interestingly makes sense on another potential reason they would change it to severely penalize and remove staying below max lvl for long, its because it actually has a finite ending. It was also starting to gain quite a bit of steam until the seperation nearly effectively removing it legitly.
Just a note I can’t believe ive posted 46 times lol, its just fun to talk about this stuff.
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Kang has mentioned that twinks take the shine off endgame. I agree with him. They do. Especially when endgame is now comprised of gimmicks and rng procs.
I also agree with the finite ending analogy. 120 currently is a treadmill of chores. Twink is endgame at 39.
Again, jmho, what makes a healthy game is a wide variety of things satisfying many angles. Pigeonholing tends to aggravate players.
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Indeed, the point of wow is to have multiple options. If there is only one way to go and nothing really is unique, then people will likely be less inclined to play as much or perhaps even at all. Just because if twinks are there though doesn’t mean that you can’t play 120. In fact, as I said before its good to play max so that you get it ready to become a twink in the future. It can also be used to help out your other lower twinks, especially when you have them on other accounts.
As ive also said in another thread, 120 unless stuff is changed or disabled at max power is gonna be very powerful as a twink, and with everything different combinations and set ups will likely be fun or somewhat fun to play.
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I have three 120’s I split my time with on retail and a 60 on Classic as well as leveling a warlock now. First lock I’ve taken seriously and having fun on it. Classic locks were amazbawls. Omg. SMRuin. So good.
Yeah, the gimmick and proc setup they are currently using could make for some explosive twinks. We’ll see what they do with it.
I have something completely different in mind with static % secondary proc boosters, once its a bit easier to get all the gear consistently heh. I think it will be better than any possible decent(not extreme corruption) proc combination.
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Nope 
Hit me up if you ever wanna do bgs though - I have toons in a bunch of different brackets.
btag = zurpadurp87#1406
It’s still possible to exploit in
I have yet to see any twinks doing bgs with xp still locked.
What I have seen is the number of scumlord mofos rolling a fotm spec increasing to stupid levels. All the lower brackets are is; mm hunter and arc mage. Straight cancer.
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Looks like it all worked out.
Slowest queues in the history of this game and all.
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Not just slow queues, mismatched number of healers - sometimes 0 vs 4, very few tuning patches in regards to pvp. Just a sad state to be in. The dwindling numbers of people participating indicate that…
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Weakest point in this game ever.
Oh Wow…
What a big joke, I suppose some suit is happy.
The bad part is blizzard will probably mark BFA as a success due to net income, mostly boosted through the store mounts they flooded this expansion with. However, shadowlands is going to be very low on number of pre-orders.
#justice
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