Memento of Tyrande

It’s funny how stories devolve over time. It’s like seeing someone go “lol sue for spilling coffee on myself.”

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It might have benefits for some warlocks, but reading the tooltip, I’d pass. There are so many better trinkets out there.

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I dropped them like a bad habit. Looking for new guild.

That was a much more complicated issue than was portrayed. McDonalds even paid nightshow hosts like Letterman to publicly mock it every day to inflence potential jurors in the case.

The coffee provided was 190 farenheit and caused extremely severe burns requiring skin grafts and a plastic surgeon to recreate the victim’s outer genitals. She had 8 days hospitalization, repeated infections and had to get continuing treatments and antibiotics for two years. The coffee was supposed to be about 170 degrees and this particular store was involved in multiple burn incidents before this one.

Lot’s of people laugh at this, but the coffee was literally hot enough to destroy her groin and a plastic surgeon had to create new labia for her.

All she asked for was $20,000 to cover her medical expenses, McDonald’s countered with an offer of $800. In court a Jury awarded her $2,700,000 punitive damages, or about 135x more than she asked for in her reasonable settlement request, which was an estimate of the profit McDonalds made from 2 days of coffee sales.

McDonalds launched a huge campaign to make themselves look like the victims of a frivolous lawsuit in order to disuade further lawsuits and influence potential jurrors in those suits.

Here are some things from the trial.

  • McDonald’s operations manual required the franchisee to hold its coffee at 180 to 190 degrees Fahrenheit.
  • Coffee at that temperature, if spilled, causes third-degree burns in three to seven seconds.
  • The chairman of the department of mechanical engineering and biomechanical engineering at the University of Texas testified that this risk of harm is unacceptable, as did a widely recognized expert on burns, the editor-in-chief of the Journal of Burn Care and Rehabilitation, the leading scholarly publication in the specialty.
  • McDonald’s admitted it had known about the risk of serious burns from its scalding hot coffee for more than 10 years. The risk had repeatedly been brought to its attention through numerous other claims and suits.
  • An expert witness for the company testified that the number of burns was insignificant compared to the billions of cups of coffee the company served each year.
  • At least one juror later told the Wall Street Journal she thought the company wasn’t taking the injuries seriously. To the corporate restaurant giant those 700 injury cases caused by hot coffee seemed relatively rare compared to the millions of cups of coffee served. But, the juror noted, “there was a person behind every number and I don’t think the corporation was attaching enough importance to that.”
  • McDonald’s quality assurance manager testified that McDonald’s coffee, at the temperature at which it was poured into Styrofoam cups, was not fit for consumption because it would burn the mouth and throat.
  • McDonald’s admitted at trial that consumers were unaware of the extent of the risk of serious burns from spilled coffee served at McDonald’s then-required temperature.
  • McDonald’s admitted it did not warn customers of the nature and extent of this risk and could offer no explanation as to why it did not.

So there’s a lot more to it than “Lady spills coffee while driving lol!” it’s more “elderly woman sitting in the passenger seat of a parked car spills coffee and requires 2 years of medical care and reconstructive plastic surgery for her mutilated groin and McDonalds makes her a public laughing stock by manipulating the media they pay to advertise on”

I just get very heated (See what I did there!) when patient’s aren’t able to advocate for themselves.

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I know Stella’s story which was my point. Everyone thinks she spilled coffee on herself then got money and have no idea there’s so much more to the story.

Is the same thing with the bow. The two Hunters that didn’t get the bow had only been in the guild for a minute. The longtime guildie Hunter already had the bow and the Rogue was someone that massively helped the guild. Plus, the two noobie Hunters had Golden bows which was only one step down from the legendary. But it seems nobody remembers any of this, just like with Stella’s story, and just go “lol give legend bow to a Rogue.”

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Oh lol, I misinterpreted that and read it the exact opposite way!
I did my Medsurge nursing paper on her case.

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Roguebow

Tenchar

Time to leave that guild OP

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TYVM for this information, I learned something today on the forums and will never look at that story the same way again =)

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Still a bad decision. Rogues only used bows as stat sticks and Thoridal had bad stats because of its effect. New to the guild or not they were there and helped kill it. Not saying they should have preference but that now goes to ANY Hunter first.

It was the first Thor’idal too. Lol.

I mean… technically it’s designed for healers, but it works just fine for mages and warlocks.

" Equip: [Increases healing done by up to 118 and damage done by up to 37 for all magical spells and effects.]
Equip: [Each time you cast a spell, there is chance you will gain up to 76 mana per 5 for 15 sec. (Proc chance: 10%, 50s cooldown)]"


That said, this is a classic example of why Master Loot is bad. Lol.

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No it wasn’t because the old Hunter already had one. The two Hunters the GL didn’t give it to were recruits.

A rogue can still equip a bow. Works great for adding an appearance for transmog, but looks really odd to see a rogue clubbing someone with a bow.

so they hate your healer group or they are clueless or they don’t care because the game is finished

Warlocks have mana tap or whatever… no warlock has mana issues in a raid . There are many others dps trinkets in the game.

I am really sorry for the Healer’s.

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No that was the name of the event.

Like Watergate.

Roguebow, it was like the 4 or 5 months into swp and they gave the bow to a rogue over 2 hunters and the internet exploded.

It was great.

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/611497-Thori-dal-give-to-A-ROGUE

No. I remember the incident because I remember the drama in the hunter community back then. But here’s and article about it for you.

The hunters joined pre-nerf muru so although they were relatively new, they weren’t recruits.

Still didn’t justify giving a legendary to a rogue as a stat stick over a hunter. It’d be like if the rogue daggers dropped from deathwing instead of a quest and they were given to a hunter as stat sticks over a rogue.

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I remember the incident too. The older Hunter in the guild already had the bow and the two newbies (if you don’t want to call them recruits) had Golden Bows.

And I don’t care about the justification. This happened 15ish years ago.

I would not have guessed that I would be reading this phrase as I clicked on this thread.

Conversations about loot can really go places.

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ROFL

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