be quiet, some specs like Arms warrior are doing half the damage of the next worst spec in the game, hunters have been between fine and overpowered for all of SoD. Just deal with it. Some specs have even worse or more boring t3.
Abralan, the man has a legitimate complaint. If the set effect from t3 is falling off due to normal use of abilities that melee hunters do. Then you’re shooting yourself in the foot to tranq or get a shot off while moving.
Warriors are fine. They have dual wield fury AND 2h fury for viable DPS specs… You don’t see BM hunters either do you? And warriors have some of the best tanking in the game. You’re not getting left out of raids. Stop being toxic.
Idk what his problem is. He just wants his once specific spec to be top. Fire destruction BM hunter and arcane mage DPS are all dead. He seems to think everything but warrior is op. Dude simply just won’t play fury
bm hunter still doubles an Arms DPS. Currently fury is middle of the pack with optimal raid situation on a pathwerk style fight and does about 1/3rd the dmg of any other class outside of raid. The class is not “fine.”
You’re not getting left out of raids
no one is, its Classic clown fiesta mode. You could cut boomkin dmg in half and theyd still come.
youre continuously citing wrong or irrelevant information and then being like “REEE YOU LOST BUDDY, MY USELESS INFO OWNED YOU”
really? using a “left out of raid” as a metric in SOD has even less meaning than it has in the past expansions.
Warrior is objectively the weakest class of SoD. One of its specs (arms) has 0 support and does half the damage of the next worst spec. It isnt even meme spec. A ret in 2019 classic only needed 70% to catch rank 1 slot, Arms needs over 200%. Remember when ppl complained about ret? boomkin? Just heal bro.
Warrior goes from 1/3rd of any other class to middle of the pack roughly in raid. Has a dead talent tree. Low survivability and utility. Worst PVP class by a huge margin. Worst open-world (quest, farm, attunements, etc) class by a huge margin.
Pointing out Frost is way better than Arms right now is a very fair point. If they made arms playable, it would help the class a lot.
Arms isn’t a legitimate PvE spec in any version of WoW before Cataclysm. The sooner you can accept that, the better.
Had they set out with the intent from P1 to make Arms viable in PvE, I would have sided with you but at this point you’re wasting your breath. Let’s stop hijacking legitimate threads and making every topic about you.
You have two very viable specs. If you want to play 2H, roll Hunter or Paladin.
Literally been watching fury warriors pumping the last couple days. There’s no reason we should be talking about this in a hunter thread. Make a post. Make your point.
This isn’t even a PvP post but a glaring usability issue that pushes hunters to not play their class as intended and ignore raid mechanics to pump higher dps.
I’ve never cared who tops meters, just as long as every gets a spot and feels useful. Warriors are definitely useful. Stop crying about arms. It’ll be okay.
Exactly. My point is that the recent changes by blizzad break core functionality of the class, for the sole reason of stopping a weave spec almost noone uses except a simulator. And that doing it for just killshot makes sense, but by having it be a blanket change on ranged attacks, breaks the class at its core.
Sure, but for a major portion of your time playing Vanilla, your mage was pressing frostbolt, CoC and blizzard. Leveling all the way up to BWL. I’d say that makes Frost “legitimate”
Same with Arms, it serves its purpose as a great leveling spec and PvP spec.
It sounds like you may love Cata/MoP/TWW. Those versions, Arms is very strong and way more fun to play. Classic Arms isn’t very interesting.