Megathread: The Other Half of the Dragon Fantasy - DRAKONIDS

There’s a big difference between Race and Class - there’s very little reason that an Evoker would fly better.

Both should have equal flying skills.

Now you could argue for a less potent fire breath racial ability - in comparison to Evoker class

But are there examples of Dracthyr using other skills

Please.

Before the expansion ends.

please…

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Evokers train to maximize the return their draconic abilities grant them, so it stands to reason an Evoker would be better with their wings than someone who hadn’t trained them. Flight lessons would likely be a part of an Evoker curriculum which would grant the increased control and capacity of Soar.

Flight lessons would be part of the training regardless of class because it would make them better fighters. Especially considering that they were dealing with flying enemies as well.

Just give the Dracthyr as a whole the new flying system. Keep it simple - don’t overcomplicate it.

That’s like saying shield training would be given to every class with a sword.

So how would playable dragons work?

Visage and you occasionally transform into a quadruped sometimes?

Or do we just call the Humanoid dragons a type of dragon or just young dragons?

No, it’s more like Every Worgen knows how to run on all fours with no problem.

Dracthyr just don’t need a flying mount - because they would have the mechanics for it. Full Stop.

Then what racial is the Dracthyr surrendering for it, because they’re bloated with abilities whose linkage is ambiguous between the race and the class. Are they losing their fire breath potency? Their tail whip? What gives here?

That’s the question that Blizzard has to ask themselves when looking at expanding them out into separate classes.

But Flying is being simplified going forward - and imo Dracthyr should not overcomplicate it, that’s why they’ll also be getting the full flying set up in an update.

but your statement about the blurred line between Class and Race is exactly the problem with trying to separate the two
it’s why Blizzard has bluntly said No on it and it’s why people make the argument to just let Drakonid to fill in that niche of a Dragon race that can play the other classes.

There are more clear distinctions between Class and Race in the case of Drakonid

If the concern is that the Drakonid are just too buff for your preferences - then give them the body types that range in size, just like Dracthyr have.

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My seething fury is directed at the notion that a one-class race is somehow acceptable, which is why I’ve campaigned so hard for Dracthyr class choice to be expanded. Blizzard will have to confront the mess they’ve made at that point, and that’s up to them to figure out, I just offered what advice I could. This is also why, while I’m fine with Drakonid becoming playable in a vacuum, I do not want them playable at the expense of Dracthyr class selection.

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Well it looks like Blizzard ARE talking about it

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This is good and hopefully we see the signs of progress soon. One-class races make zero sense in any way you look at it unless they’re literally robots.

Dracthyr already have the animations for most class abilities baked into them. So… it is really a matter of time.

They wouldn’t, honestly. Blizzard realized that and chose to focus in on a few uniquely draconic traits while throwing a few others - namely the physicality and size - to the wayside. The Dracthyr are the result of that. It would be very strange to try to give them back that physicality when they exist as a compromise that avoided it.

That being said, Drakonid could embody everything about dragons that Dracthyr are not.

Imagine the cheers they would have gotten at Blizzcon if they announced this as the new playable race after things settled down with the Dragon Isles leading into The War Within. Everyone would have been happy. Instead we got a 3rd Dwarf.

Additionally they do apparently have the ability to disguise themselves, like Lord Hiram Creed for example.

So hypothetically Drakonid could have a visage form

More specifically, they have whatever draconic powers whoever uplifted them imparts to them. Hiram Creed, there is an oddity, though - that’s certainly a rare power to grant a drakonid. Mostly, you see the inverse - mortals races tapping into draconic power (be it gifted or stolen) to become drakonids themselves. Which isn’t too out of the ordinary, given their origins.

For a more far out option, There’s also the Tarasek - which use the Worgen skeleton rig

Since Allied Races are reskins of existing race options…

Less work on the technical end of things

Also a Note on Dracthyr Concept art, on the wiki page - you can find their old concept art when sexual dimorphism was more present. The males were actually wider

And Lingxiu - there was actually even slimmer Dracthyr in the art as well with the Female design

Is it this one?

Yeah, I’d have really liked something like that. I kept posting the fan edit as I loved it…
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fdmahsn5wtkqb1.jpg

Here is the female for comparison

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PULL THE RIPCORD!
It wouldn’t let me post this without a full sentence, so here it is. Pull the ripcord Blizz, this would please people a lot especially after the Earthen thing.