i want to play an ascended dragon being not a lizard man!
I wouldnât really care, but I would need some lore to explain it. Aspect magic seems more innate than other magics (similar to like a sorc. in DnD).
It wouldnât be hard, theyâd need to just clarify that no itâs not innate and can be taught to other races and maybe the Dracthyr are trying to bolster the number of Evokers in the world after being asleep for so long/losing so many of their own.
Or if itâs innate theyâd need a reasoning on how to make it so they can give this ability to other races. Maybe some kind of ritual process⌠Iâm not sure.
Either way, it ⌠could be done, but I donât want to just have it show up without any explanation.
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It is innate, hence why Neltharion needed to make them to have them use all 5 aspects, it couldnât just be thought.
Now, they can find a way to hamfist it in for other races but then the dragon aspect powers kinda lose their appeals if every race can use them.
I think we left the lore for classes thing when we got Tauren Paladins. Sunwalkers?
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That makes sense, lore wise. Blizzard is just lazy to give them their own unique animations and armor sets.
Sunwalkers found the light but worshiping the sun. Not that hard.
âŚSo basically a human?
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Best argument ever for removing Dracthyr and just adding the classes to other races.
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It is, but like bananas with spots or Macklemore I donât like it. Visage is the Nickelback of forms.
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I really like Sunwalkers. And it makes sense to me. Theyâre still light worshippers. Itâs just from a different source.
What Bigfel said!
Besides, what I mean is that the lore needs to be there. The Sunwalkers arenât a good example, because the lore IS there. It might not be everyoneâs favorite, but it still exists. I can think of maybe⌠one or two examples of race/class combos that donât seem to make sense or have lore justifications. And they both involve the LFD⌠You know the ones⌠YesâŚthose onesâŚ
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I think the problem with sunwalkers is that Blizzard didnât flesh the idea out more. IIRC, there was supposed to be a questline in Uldum where Aponi Brightmane learned about the origins of the Sunwalkers and how they shared ties with the Ramkahen cat-taurs through discovering that one of their idols depicted a tauren with the sun, but it ultimately got scrapped altogether when half the zone was retooled into an extended Indiana Jones sequence.
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I am one of those people.
I donât see a downside to the option to stay in visage form during combat with a brief change when needed for a few spells (Like DHâs do).
I like the Season 2 tier set appearance for Evoker, I like some of the changes the specs are getting and I think about giving the class a go for Season 2, but then I always come back to⌠yeah but then Iâd have to be a goofy lizard.
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My god⌠can you people stop trying to ruin Evoker?? The class fantasy is being the experiment we are.
Stop it. Learn the lore. Stop trying to kill this class fantasy.
If you donât want to play a dragonman experiment pick another class. This one breaths dragon fires. Go play a freaking Mage or Druid.
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Just curious, how would your experience or class fantasy as an Evoker be affected if other people had the option to be in visage form during combat? Just an option, nothing youâd have to use. What would that ruin for you?
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Giving LFD the red skin option would solve those problems. You could claim those classes are from the race they took in. Even the LFD that donât use the red skin could still claim to have not been fully converted and that is why they donât have the red skin tone. Sometimes it is a small change that can make it work.
WoW already has some of the groundwork to maybe make something work. Think of the dragon soul, focusing iris, staffs and thing this xpac. Dracthyr could have used the information found in Deathwingâs lab to make something smaller that can harness the power of the aspects and be âembeddedâ in the other races if the person as an aptitude for it. Allowing them to use Evoker powers and the spell effects would allow for them to take on the form of a Dracthyr when the spell is usedâŚwell depending on the spell.
Order Halls would be a great place to have quest or lore tidbits for evergreen content.
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or just have visages open up to other races. That sounds more simple and lore friendly.
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Because Iâm sick and tired of seeing Dracthyr running around not as Dracthyr. Itâs bs. Watching people not be a race they chose DOES affect me. Stop it with this ridiculous mindset of thinking people are in their own bubble and donât see anyone or anything else.
Donât play a Dracthyr if you donât want to be one. Donât ruin the dragonman experiment fantasy of Evoker.
Period. End of story.
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I donât think Evokers or Dracthyr need permanent visage form.
I do think that Blizzard needs to map Dracthyrâs lizard form for transmog.
Even if half the slots are greyed out like they are for Mechagnome, it would be better than what they have now. A whole race that canât engage with a large part of the reward structure in game -without using a temporary transformation ability- is poor design.
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Yea, I honestly would be fine with both the reasonings you gave. Both for the LFD and the Dracthyr. Thatâs all I want⌠I donât care what class/race combos there are in game. But please just give me a sentence of context.
Dracthyr canât be monks. Lore makes it pretty obvious. They have never met a Pandarian up until this point. Makes sense. Now we want Dragon Monks (as an example. Not saying this is true), okay well now that they have met⌠dragons, being a great warrior race, are learning more about the world and that includes some of them finding enlightenment in the different warrior philosophies of the Pandarian monks⌠Perfect. Makes sense. thatâs a wrap!
Something like that is literally all I need.
Depends on what you want I guess. If a person wants to be Dwarf Evoker than that would not work. But if people just wanted the look of a Dwarf but did not care about the race then it would.
I personally do not feel that lore should be static in a living world. Meaning that things in the past should stay the same but new things can be added. That ideas can be expanded on in ways that work with the lore of the world as a whole. This is why I feel that every race can be a warlock. By lore we are shunned outcasts because we deal in the taboo for greater power.
But visage form is part of being a Dracthyr, using it is playing a Dracthyr. You arenât watching people not play a race they chose, you just donât like an aspect of the race.
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