Watching the recent MDI cup, something came to mind. I find it interesting that covenant choice is supposed to be some meaningful decision, but in the MDI cup that showcases Mythic+, teams are are allowed to simply swap covenants to whatever is best for the current situation.
If covenants are supposed to be a keystone feature of the expansion, and so much emphasis is put on picking one and sticking with it, why does the premiere Mythic+ event allow freely swapping covenants instead of forcing class/covenant combinations to remain static like us plebs on live realms?
I’d like to be able to swap to whatever covenant is the best for what it is I’m doing, too.
(I’d also like to be able to try different combinations of conduits in the servers instead of only Simcraft, but that’s limited too.)
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They really should redo the rules for MDI. Make it so you have to build and submit your team roster before the instances are announced. Once the team is submitted, there are no changes to the class (maybe have a bench roster with 1 or 2 more characters), races or things like covenants. This way instead of being able to build the very best possible team for a given instance, you instead have to build the more balanced one that can do all of them.
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Because the entire meaningful choice thing was complete nonsense from the start.
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People who compete in pve for times and nonsense aren’t playing wow they’re playing a different game and it should be nowhere near wow… wow is not an Esport its a world… this esport CRINGE professional gamer thing is so stupid i will NEVER understand it. PVP yes i get that but not pve. The only thing you should be competing against in pve is the monsters in the dungeon you are braving with your fellow adventurers… as wow is supposed to be. Wow is a world. If you play this to see your stupid highscore on raider io just play a different game because you’re ruining wow
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Changing classes is fine, I think. It’s easier than having to actually have more people play, but I think covenants should be fixed for each class like they are in live. Shouldn’t MDI reflect the actual game at least nominally?
I think you posted in the wrong thread.
TLDR; People are having fun wrong! Everyone should play the game by my strictly defined rules!
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Not that I disagree with you but tournament play for just about any competitive game has a different set of rules.
Expect covenants are not fixed for each class. You can pick any covenant you want for any class, the only limitation is with swapping around between them. Which is why I suggested having a limited number of characters, because then their covenant would be locked in on that character and you couldn’t just switch to the best one for a given instance.
Well no. We are allowed to change our builds before every M+. I change some of my talents based off the dungeons I am in.
Most notable one - stun vs mass roots.
They should have same rules as everyone else. Like OP stated, your main has a covenant, then you stick with it.
I agree both with this and the parent post.
Each team member should get 2 characters that they can spec and gear as they wish. But once submitted, they’re stuck with their decisions going in to the competition with the freedom that they can build the party out of that total of 10 characters after learning what instance they’re going to run.
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I can’t realistically switch covenant for every dungeon I do, like they do on MDI. I understand tournaments are sometimes different, but shouldn’t a tournament that showcases gameplay at least try to adhere to the spirit of the expansion? That spirit being that we pick a covenant and stick with it? We’re not changing covenants daily.
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Yes, people who are competing for the absolute best times will pick things that give them a small advantage. Are you competing in the MDI? Of course not. So why do you care what they’re doing?
I never mentioned build did I? I said class, race and covenant. Clearly you can change from being an outlaw rogue to a sub if you wanted or change your talents.
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Did you even read my post, or just the title? I’m asking why the tournament breaks with such a major part of the expansion: sticking with a covenant.
While you can swap covenants on live, the intent is that you stick with one, that’s why it takes two weeks to swap back to one you left. So why doesn’t MDI adhere to that same intent? Or why can’t we just swap freely? That’s the question I’m posing.
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Maybe if blizzard wasn’t obsessed with Esport wow we could have a true mmo… with world events like the pre patch… why can’t random things like that happen all the time? Instead we all sit in a waiting room until our group is ready for our next match.
Can you quit derailing the thread, please?
True, I remember all the random events we got in vanilla, back before WoW was just a filthy esport.
That was the beginning of the road… development time wasted on something most people dont care about could have been used to make wow a better mmo… which is why more people leave wow for mmos with better community
And I suppose you’d consider yourself a paragon of a ‘better’ community? Even after coming in here and trying to dictate other peoples’ gameplay to align better with your own?