MC Raid Hype

Watching the MC Raid yesterday and the progress leading up to it (from Vitochie world first 60 to Graysfordays alt-tab death) have been exciting, nail-biting, and interesting to watch.

I’ve personally found keeping up with this more exciting than the recent DF RWFs and MDIs.

Really loved the recent HC content.

Well deserved IMO. What a moron. When you’re in a dungeon with others they deserve your full attention.

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Yeah - it was tragic. Apparently he was playing for 20 hours at that time and was trying to minmax.

Its tragic - but not surprising honestly. I’m not going to be alt-tab’d while my main is auto-running in a dung.

Also - being tired - he freaked out. He was in cat stealth - freaked out when he tab’d back and swapped to bear which caused the mobs to aggro. If he stayed in stealth in the corner its possible he might not have died.

But, its a lesson for us all. Sleep and don’t alt-tab.

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Tryhard groups are less exciting to watch, though. The less prepared raids will be more interesting, if there are any of them.

On the other hand, the more gear they get, the more oof it’s doing to be if someone dies.

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Season 1 DF MDI was kind of interesting since at day 1 there were strats and paths that were wild and crazy - but then it quickly was the same old same old.

But seeing a bunch of fresh-ish 60s scrambling into MC and all the progress up to that point has been exciting.

At first I was like “Oh no, a bunch of 60s are going to die”, but I was wrong! And so happy for them!

I can’t wait to see more raids and more pushing.

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I am hella impressed with anyone that can raid on HC. I hope to one day get there but we’ll see. Bravo to those that dared enter the Molten Core!

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Unlikely that people will wipe in MC if they know how to play.

They’ll probably be fine in BWL also, though you can randomly lose tanks to broodlord/nef/chrom occasionally even if you’re playing correctly.

AQ40 is a real test because things like c’thun trash are brutal and cause random deaths and attrition even if you’re a skilled raid.

World buffs played a large role in that. World buffs trivialized raids for all of classic vanilla. There can still be a death here n there, though.

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They didn’t “trivalize” anything most guilds never cleared AQ40 much less naxx in 2019 classic or vanilla classic. Elite guilds use them, sure, and it makes it faster and easier for them, but the average guild still did not clear the content.

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yes, everyone wants to see level 60s bite the dust, not calmly and methodically run through content with zero issues :expressionless: the best HC content will be more akin to a reality show than a gaming session.

Gotta wait for AQ40/green dragons/naxx, MC is just a tank and spank where you put on some FR and win.

Thats definitely not the case. Pugs were regularly clearing AQ40. We were even clearing it in gdkps with pure buyers…

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Vanilla classic raiding was pretty easy when bosses died in less than 60 seconds. The only exception was Naxx, but with gear the bosses died quicker. AQ40 boss fights were too short in BWL full BiS.

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I was there, what happened was the average guilds made it to BWL and then blew up in AQ40 and all the good players consolidated into a few higher quality guilds. Then they ran GDKP pugs with half the players being progression raiders carrying the pug buyers. The average (and even above average) guilds did not survive AQ40 and did not clear AQ40 or naxx with or without world buffs. I tanked for many of the pugs on my server.

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Speed running became the meta and everyone wanted to be a speed running guild. Speed running was the average.

No, it wasn’t average at all. There were a few dozen of them and hundreds of regular guilds across all the servers. Most did not play that way.

Some of the “top” guilds had between 3 to 10 raid teams. This cannibalized a lot of average guilds. World buffs still make the content much easier.

Yes, because the average guilds (and even many above average guilds) could not clear content with or without them, which means the content was not “trivial”. You’re just repeating my point.

Nobody blew up in AQ40 because of the difficulty lol.

You must have been on a trash server then. I don’t know what to tell you

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Few dozen rofl? DId you even play classic my guy??