or maybe ele shaman arent as op as is being advertised?
or maybe the 40% flat spell damage reduction is murdering my damage output?
i dont know, fellas and felicias , im not feeling the opness on the ele shaman.
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1 Shaman vs 15, the shaman is getting deleted.
5-7 Shamans vs 15 alliance there is a good chance the Alliance wipes.
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i also havent seen these mythical 5+ shaman bg groups with all ele shamans wiping entire teams of alliance either.
kinda hard when your 15 pally groups all bubble and stomp the eles though.
edit to add:
kinda disappointed really. i expected to 1shot everyone and its not even close to whats advertised.
Use shield mastery and rock biter runes. Get 4 piece tank set. Take parry in enhance tree. Take ancestral healing in resto tree. The rest of the gear and talents elemental. Enjoy 
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you want me to use way of earth and nuke my range to 10 yards .
somehow i dont feel like what you are saying is worth engaging with .
edit to add:
you know i wanted to add this . range is already a problem with ele shaman.
you want to reduce it to just a little farther than melee range.
think about that .
please.
Shamans are no longer op and were not op last phase. It’s primarily ret pally mains complaining about a direct class counter trying to negotiate buffs for their already strong brainless class.
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If fat blue haired woke girl was a class, it would be ret paladin players.
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maybe.
all i know is it is not playing like its advertised and im disappointed.
honestly people still saying shaman are op are smokin that bad stuff now.
try binding flame shock
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Dog shamans are way overtune
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funny.
but ya flame shock is being used.
maybe try again with something else?
Are you actually suggesting you expected to win that 1v15? You must think shaman is really broken.
no i wasnt suggesting it , though other people have suggested just that.
but i was just saying, im not feeling the opness.
it doesnt play as advertised by most who say shaman is the single most op thing in the game.
edit to add: in fact ive more often got clipped by a bubbled pally for my entire health bar in the span of 2 seconds than the times where i felt really strong.
Oh nooo you died once while you won AB for the 100th time in a row? Time to post on the forums three THOUSAND times.
i diddnt say anything about winning or losing any bg at all.
but ya not feeling the opness.
You should post about it another three thousand times
ty for the bump.
your contribution is appreciated.
Because my honesty is all pervasive, I can tell you that paladin is very strong and CAN burst down a shaman in the current state. Paladin is likely even overpowered now, although they removed double judge from the baseline kit and force you to wear 6 piece, and I don’t think its op without double judge although still good.
With no double judge a shaman should still win 100% of the time and most of the time even with it. The real issue is faction balance at the moment. In big zerg fights Ele has exponential impact the more you stack while paladins don’t have the same effect due to being melee and more single target.
im not even saying pallies are mega super op.
ive just been on the unlucky end of a crit streak like more times than i care to count getting 100-0 in the span of 2 seconds THROUGH EARTHSHIELD by pallies who are half the time bubbled and IMMUNE TO EVERYTHING.
but this isnt a post to say how op pallies are.
its a post to say im not feeling the opness of ele shaman and the advertisement of them being so super op that they own everything in the game and are the single most op class ever!!one1!
Well I just explained that to you. The more shamans you stack is more chain lightnings doing damage before a paladin has got close to have any impact. Its not even a close comparison in terms of group pvp impact.
A shaman does its optimal damage spec WHILE wearing a shield and has a much larger mana pool for off heals and sustain. A ret paladin has almost non existent healing and will be oom in a protracted fight to even attempt to heal itself. If you recall I actually run the build that has a large free mana self heal when you all were calling me stupid for it, but 99% of paladins can’t even do that.