all these complaints about bots are because people want to gather and sell items at high prices - throwing the baby out with the bathwater isn’t the solution.
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Crafting and material gathering is in it’s worst place in the life of the game.
the caveat, its also not the most critical aspect of the game and gets very little attention.
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The EZ-Mode veins wouldn’t be a problem if it was actually worth mining them. It’s a bit underwhelming to invest the extra time doing a ‘mini-game’ and then get 1 single piece of R1 material. I think that’s the main complaint.
If bots wouldn’t keep the prices down on the floor, normal players could then make more gold and therefore actually afford things.
What? People actually want some return and a bit of gold for all of their time they invested into farming? Well color me surprised, how dare they?
People praising bots are far worse, because those people want everything for free and not lift a single finger to get the good stuff. The same people who buy R1 mats, offer a 50g tip and expect to get a crafted BiS item with max rank in return.
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I have 2 herbalists, 4 miners and 3 skinners and I sell stuff just fine. If you don’t like the price you are getting find something else to farm to make gold. I think the prices are very good for this point in the expansion.
Its funny that anyone would think a bot couldn’t easily do any mini-game a player could also do
Are you a coder? Do you know first-hand how hard/easy it is to program a bot to do any and every type of mini game from screen captures?
You’re trying to find a solution for a problem that Blizz does not want to fix. Bots pay their monthly subscription, and so Blizz will never punish them to the extent that they will not just grab a new monthly sub.
I did some math after Blizz did a ban wave in WoTLC classic. Someone interviewed a large botting outfit in the far east, and they mentioned what percentage of their bot accounts had received bans, and these numbers indicated that close to 25% of “player” accounts were in fact bots.
Blizz doesn’t want to risk losing a quarter of their subscription revenue, so they’ll never ban enough botting accounts to dissuade them from buying more, and they’ll never put in some mini-game that would both cost them bot account revenue, and real player revenue because it would anger real players.
So you’re a multiboxer? Of course that’s somewhat more lucrative then. The token price in EU is around 350k+ and a player who wants to farm for their monthly sub doesn’t really get anywhere with getting maybe 8k gold for over an hour of farming.
They’ve always been here.
I’ve just come to include them in my head canon as official Warcraft lore at this point. They’re a nuisance. They get in the way. But fundamentally they do not grossly impact us other than MAYBE we miss a couple nodes an hour.
oh boy that is some leap to go from having 9 characters to being a multi boxer.
It was a simple question. Otherwise I don’t really get why it’s important for the discussion that you have several characters with gathering professions. You can only play one character at a time, so having several characters doesn’t matter and also doesn’t yield you more herbs and ore.
because you implied they weren’t getting paid enough currently. And in my experience they are.
Well, in my experience having a farm session with one character (with herbalism+mining) isn’t worth the time because stuff isn’t worth that much. shrug That’s why I concluded that you were probably multiboxing, when especially you felt the need to point out that you have several gathering characters - an information that’s irrelevant when you’re only farming with one character at a time. 
Well I am playing in the US and since this thread is on a US forum - your European prices are irrelevant.
And if I thought gathering was worthless I wouldn’t have 9 gathering characters that I have leveled up, maxed out the professions on and filling the trees out with.
If it isn’t worth it to you in Europe perhaps Europe has more bots than the US servers have or maybe you need to adjust your expectation of how much time you should commit if you want to play the game for free.
if it takes a few minutes to gather each node then it will reduce the number of herbs/ore that we can gather per hour.
quantity goes down, demand stays the same, prices go up.
I wouldn’t farm 4 hours a day to make 100g on the 10 herbs I managed to gather cuz of a mini game I had to play on every node.
most fun I’ve ever had with professions was fighting over mining nodes in wintergrasp xD
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Prices for stuff are pretty equal in EU und US, I looked it up. My opinion stands, prices for most stuff are way too low in comparison what WoW tokens and a lot of vendor stuff costs. The only big difference lies in the token price, but even with the price sitting at around 270k it would be a gigantic time investment to farm for it. It’s not really productive to mostly play only to be able to pay for a token.
Maybe you’re one of those people who think they got a small fortune when they got 5k in vendored items after 2 hours of grinding old raids, idk? What’s a laughable small amount of gold for me may be a shiny jackpot to another person.
Yeah i’d rather not have to play a full game of Mahjongg just to loot a node or skin a critter, but thank you.
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Then use money to pay for your sub like everyone did for years before tokens existed. No one is entitled to be able to pay with gold. You either have the gold to sub that way or use money. If the time investment isn’t worth it to you to use gold then use money. It’s not a difficult thing. Especially since you apparently have an EU and US sub.
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That’s an easy fix: increase material per node to compensate for increased time taken per node (which, y’know, OP mentioned when he said “e better you do at the mini game the more resources you gather”).
Alternatively, material needed to craft things could be reduced.